Here is an article from Car and Driver, a pretty reputable source.

Hypertech wins!!!!

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...%20ahoy&page=4
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/features/1999/October/199910_feature_chips.xml?&keywords=chips%20ahoy&pa ge=4

 

Hi Skinsel,

You'd probably do well to actually know a little something more about this before making gross proclamations of victory here.

Try using the search feature of these message boards and go back to read thru our responses to that C&D article years ago, and you'll quickly find just how little relevance any of that has.

You'll quickly find that this was done *years* ago, and the only Ford they used a Superchip on was a brand new Mercury Cougar, whch had just come out and had never been thru *any* R&D at Superchips whatsoever. In fact, Superchips wasn't even selling a Superchip for that vehicle at that time! Even at that, there were power gains and nice reductions in acceleration times from the Superchip. They had some throttle tip-in detonation, which could easily have been adjusted for and was before that product was ever released to the public, by the way. All in all, a pretty darned good result for sending a Superchip for a vehicle they had never seen or had any hands on with and no testing done, etc.

Funny that would be your very first post on this web site, by the way.

As anyone who has been here any length of time knows all too well, and as has been reported on these boards *numerous* times by those who have actually owned and used both the Superchip and the Hypertech products on the same vehicle, or who has used both the Superchip and the Jet product on the same vehicle, there is no comparison between what the Superchip does and what the Hypertech does, and every singel person who has done that has posted that the Superchip was obviously superior. But then, that's the benefit of actual knowledge and hands-on experience, rather than just repeating something you read and claiming that it means or proves something.

If you knew anything about the powertrain programs made by both companies, or if you had ever even bothered to *use* the product, getting actual experience with both products on the same vehicle, as many others here have done, you'd never post what you just did or make any such claim.

For example, it might interest you to know that just removing the full power onset delay from the powertrain program of those late-model GM trucks alone will knock virtually a full second off their 0-60 acceleration times! Again, here is where actual knowledge of what's going on in the various powertrain programs makes all the difference in the world in the perception of the actual results.

If you would like to know something factual about the differences between the Superchip and the Hypertech, both in terms of the actual changes both companies make to the powertrain programs as well as actual power gains and performance results achieved, please feel free to give us a call, as we'll give you a very easy way to determine this on your own, for youself.

We wish you well,

 

That's funny. I have talked to about 15 individuals who have installed superchips and when they did the chip fried the factory computer. Nice, real nice. The great thing about the Hypertech Power Programmer is that you don't run that risk because all you are doing is reprogramming. You are not "installing" any hardware that could damage the original hardware. Furthermore, do you see a Hypertech distributor posting on this website? Nope, didn't think so. Don't you think if there was one he would have his loyal group of minions just as you do? Either way, I am going with the Hypertech simply because it is a programming device, and does not require the installation of hardware that could greatly damage your costly factory hardware.

One last thing: if I have to trust "Car and Driver" or a distributor of Superchips - I am going to trust Car and Driver every time. Can you say "neutral third party"? Keep peddling your wares Mr. Superchips distributor. I want results and I am going to get them with the power programmer.

 

skinsel,
Funny too that I know off at least 7 personal friends and myself that run the Superchip in one of the big "3" and none have fried the ECM. Some have run them for more than a year or two and no problems. Not trying to create waves but stating a fact. You will also see numerous users of the Superchip here that also dont have any "Fried" computers.

It looks like your post is trying to stir the pot so to say.

Heres a nice quote from your link also,

"Of the six chips we tested, only two--from Hypertech and Superchips--showed enough of a horsepower improvement to write home about. "

Must mean Superchips knows what they are doing....

 

Hypertech vs. Superchips lets see now I driver a '00 550 ford powerstroke diesel 5 speed about 3 days a week with the Hypertech chip. My brother in law has a '00 350 powerstroke with an auto, with a superchip. He had to fly home in Feb (his mother ill). So I drove his truck back to CA. for him from TX.. And found that even with the auto and pulling 5th wheel travel trailor his truck would out pull & out run same motor with a Hypertech.
Just my 2 cents
Paul

 

Skinsel,

What we have here is obvious, and only serves to make you look well, let's just say less than intelligent or mature, to be polite.

By the way, I'm going to take this opportunity to tell you flat out that you haven't ever talked to any 15 individuals who fried their ECU's because of using the Superchip. That's right, I'm telling you that never happened, and I am publicly challenging you to prove it. Provide me with their names off the boards here and I will *personally* contact each and every one, and I will also make sure that the manufacturer communicates with each and every one of these 15 people you have made this claim about, and we'll see just what the actual facts really are. Contact me personally at our phone number listed below, and you can call me *collect* with that information. I won't hold my breath, however, as I doubt you can substantiate that.

Interesting how you so easily came up with this claim of some 15 people "frying" their ECU's after your first post was so quickly rejected here.

Of course, if you had bothered to check anything out, you would know that Superchips has *always* had a firm policy of replacing the customer's ECU at their expense if the Superchip damaged someone's ECU. Any customer of Superchips would have known that as well, as had they contacted Superchips with such an issue, Superchips would have had them *immediately* send in their ECU for testing, as it's easy to do specific testing of the Superchip and the ECU to determine if that actually *did* happen or not.

By the way, it might interest you to know that I am not an employee of Superchips, as you can clearly see in each and every one of our posts here. We have our *own* company, and Superchips is just one of many manufacturers we represent. I hope for your sake that Superchips doesn't see that last post of yours.

This is so pointless, it's like shooting fish in a barrel, fish who gasp to their dying breath "I'm not a fish, I'm not a fish.........."
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There's no shame or sin in not knowing about something, or in using whatever products you want to use, that's perfectly fine, that's your right like anyone else.

However, it's one thing to not know something, it's quite another to come on here making gross declarations about things of which you have no knowledge and absolutely no experience with **whatsoever**, and then to top it off, attempt to impune our honesty as you continue your shameful conduct.

It would be one thing if you had come on here and said something like "I've decided to buy the Hypertech Power Programmer, I think it's best for me" or something to that effect. Nobody here cares about what you buy, we'd all wish you well and hope you had a good experience with it.

But you didn't do that, did you? No.............. of course not.

What you did was to wade right into a room of people who know far more about this than you *ever* will, people who are obviously more mature than you are, and start making gross proclamations. Then when that didn't work and you were told the facts, you immediately started making attacks, insinuations, attempting to cast aspersions about our veracity & credibiliy, etc.

Despite your conduct, I hope you enjoy your Hypertech product, and that it serves you well.

 

First, let me tell you, I have used both the Hypercrap and the Superchip on my truck. The Hypercrap did nothing to improve low end torque or H.P. It did NOT allow rev limiter adjustments or speed limiter over ride. Now don't make yourself look silly by disputing this info. Look at my "ride" and if you doubt me, call them and tell them you have the Hypertech for this year and they will admit they are not smart enough to accomplish any real gains for my truck.
Second, I am sorry to hear that you actually know 15 people who can't walk and chew gum at the same time....."burn out the computer".....LMAO at that one.
Third...Car and Driver IS on the take, just as all major rags are. That is what pays the light bills. You think the magazine publishers make money off of subscribers...LMAO. Marketing is what does it for them, you think they are gonna crap on one of their customers...LMAO again.

Real World...I know the diff. I have had both within a months time.
Have You?????............Didn't think so. Hey, if making out like your bad choice was a good one makes you feel better....go for it. Just remember, if you come up on a superchip user...lay low, they will leave you at the light.

Rocks

 

LMAO

 

Just wanted to say thanks.
I have been considering the Hypertech tuner. After reading many of the articles on the Superchips tuner I am starting to become more convinced this may be the way to go. I was somewhat concerned that a sales distributor of SuperChips was active in the posts, however after reading many of the individual users posts I can only assume the he is no different from the rest and that he is not only posting his personal opinion as a user but may be better informed then some of us. My primary reason to get the Hypertech devise over the Superchip tuner was my desire to burn regular unleaded fuel in the lower octanes while towing. I see now that Superchips has come out with model 1715 I believe that fits my truck. As with most of us I want everything from increased power, towing, firmer shift points and fuel mileage. Superchips tuner sounds pretty good.