I just have a Question on the Supper Chip.
Now I am happy with my chip, but my brother is an engineer and keeps telling me that if it was good for the truck, Ford would be making there own.
That one must be careful, that it could put stress on the different systems.
My truck runs so much better now then before, It felt like I was towing a trailer before I put the chip in. Is he full of crap!

 

Never heard much about the Supper Chip........I do like my Super chip though!! lol

 

Wow!! Congradulations, you have the longest sig I have everseen. Can some one call geniuss please

 

Its because Ford (and most other auto makers) tune their vehicles for the general public. Most people want a smooth and quiet ride, hence the restrictions on intakes, exhausts, etc... to meet those needs. I'm sure Mike will be along to go further into details but I believe thats the jist of it! In this months Truckin' magazine theres an article about how auto makers are seeing the huge profits aftermarket companines are making and they want in on it too. So expect to see common mods like intakes, exhausts, chips, and appearance mods at a dealership near you in the near future with dealer prices most likely!

 

its all about consumer reports man. LIke they said, most people don't buy a truck for performance (unless its the lightning, heh heh) and don't want ot have run any special fuel, or hear loud exhaust or a loud engine. Plus that little sticker on the vehicle when you buy it that lists the mpg highway and city? Changing that number one or two mpg can mean millions for Ford, if they lessen the miles per gallon consumer reports comes out and says "Another typical gas hog" and the general public doesn't buy it.

 

Yes, I have been meaning to do something about the sig, it is way too long, I'll agree. It's congratulations by the way, and genius. I'm still not exactly sure what you mean by your last sentence.

 

I think he meant Guinness, as in the Guinness Book of World Records.

Greg O.
Rocket Scientist

 

That makes a little more sense.......Thanks 10th

 

Thanks for all the input on the Super Chip. But I'm talking about Supper Chip,
Where Ford owners go to eat! Ford is trying them out to see if they go over,
My fear is that the Chips their serving up are to high in fat content, and may cause some drive train problems down the road. Hows that for a save, you all have me turning RED. I'll try to pay more attention to my spelling in the future. Hope my little post put a smile on your faces, and I know you'll all will look forward to hearing from me again.

 

Simple..the majority of F-150 owners do not want to burn more expensive Premium fuel in these gas guzzlers.

99flareside is right on the money!

 

Hi Scuze,

As you suspected, your brother is wrong on this.

The primary reason that Ford doesn't tune these F-150's from the factory like we do with the Superchip is because they would lose *many* sales of these F-150's if they required the use of premium gas from the factory. The F-150 is the world's largest selling vehicle of any kind, 750,000 every year, and Ford isn't going to suddenly require everyone to use premium gas, they'd lose half their sales to construction fleets, etc.

This is true of most automakers in fact, in terms of how they tune their non-performance vehicles, they virtually all tune them for the use of low quality gas, make them shift like a Grannymobile, and don't allow them to see triple-digit speeds, that's a very common theme. But when you take a look at their "performance" vehicles, then you see they require premium gas just like the Superchip does, they shift better than these trucks do with the Superchip, and they don't have top speed limiters, etc. just like with the Superchip. My, what a coincidence! So it's really just a matter of applying performnace tuning to a vehicle that is not sold specifically as a performance vehicle from the factory.

Your brother might be surprised to learn just how many Ford employees, from engineers to forklift operators, call to thank us for what we do for their beloved Fords.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Superchip having any negative impact of vehicle or component reliability, etc., in fact, automatic transmissions tend to last *longer* with the Superchip.

However, that doesn't mean that your brother isn't a great engineer, it just tells you that he is not employed as an automotive powertrain engineer, or by Superchips, or he would know better, as he would actually have direct hands-on experience in this specific field. It's just like if you're not a dentist, then chances are you really don't know much about how to do a root canal.

He just doesn't know all about Ford's soft-shift strategies and why they are used, or their tuning strategies or why they are used, actual effect & impact on these vehicles, etc. That's all, it doesn't mean he doesn't know what he knows, it just means he doesn't know this specific field, that's all. He's probably very good at what he actually does, so don't give him too hard a time of it.

 

I have also heard that Ford, Chevy and other car manufactures will "under tune" there engines so that they will last longer, not require as much maintince, and will be cheaper to make.

For example the 5.4 block has many diffrent applications and manu diffrent power outputs. Some have 2 valves per cylinder and some have 4. The Lighting has the supercharger while the mustang Cobra R dosen't. Now I belive the reason the Cobra R dosen't is because they had enough trouble stuffing the 5.4 under it's hood much less a supercharger too!!!

I read about a Corvett that had dual superchargers on them and WOW! talk about crazy fast. I don't know if I would even want to try and drive something like that... Oh what the hell I'll drive.

One of these days I will get my self a lighting (I'm too big, and will never be comfortable in a sports car) then modify the hell out of that! Ah dreams

 

Yet another solid response from Mike.......the guy sure knows his product and its application. Just gonna run in my truck for alittle longer!

 

Mike is the YODA of Superchips and everything associated with it!

 

I am somewhat confused

Can someone tell me the difference between getting a superchip vs getting a hyper programer. After reading up the programer, it would appear to give you the best of both worlds.

Program for performance when you want it

Program it for normal when you want that instead.

Seems the ability to switch back and fourth would be much desired - hence the "flip chip".

So what I would like to know is which type of set up would be better to own ??

Anyone want to tackle that one