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does anyone have a flipchip in there f150? i'm curious how it shifts in low octane setting?i'm in calif. and if gas goes through the roof again i would use the low setting, but i'm still interested in firm shifts, i have the intake and exhaust done, but now i'm wondering if i should get the chip or just a shift kit.
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I have one in my lightning and boy does it shift. It firms them up perfectly. Even if you don't have it in race mode it still firms up the shifts. You have to use the preimum gas in these because the truck will begin to ping if preimum is not used.
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Ken, welcome aboard! You might want to go to the top of the page and do a search on the flipchip to gather more info. I've had my flipchip about 9 months and only used the low octane setting maybe twice, when 92 was about $2. The shift improvements are in both positions on my chip, one of the reasons I got it.
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Hi KENSTOWELL,
I'll second that, welcome to F-150 Online!
In the dual-octane Flip Chip for the non-Lightning F-150, we do the same changes to improve automatic transmission shifting that we do on the premium gas side. We want you to have all the other benefits no matter what octane level you're running, so that even on the 87 octane program you'll have a little bit better acceleration, the shifts will be improved just as on Side 2 in the premium gas program and the powertrain will be much more responsive overall, with the various delays & regards removed.
That non-Lightning F-150 application is a bit different than what we do in the Lightning version of the Flip Chip, as in the Lightning, there is no low-octane program, it requires the use of premium gas from the factory and on both sides of the Flip Chip. What spanky777will was kind enough to post (thanks!) is also correct, on Side 1 of most of our Lightning Flip Chip combos you also have the changes to improve automatic transmission shift characteristics.
To answer your question specifically about how does the transmission shift in the low octane position, the only difference is that it may seem a tiny bit less firm that on the premium gas side, simply because you'll have less engine power available than in the premium gas program, and that sometimes makes the shifts seem a tad less firm. However, we're doing all the same changes to the transmission program on both sides in that dual-octane configuration, so my suggestion would be to wait on doing mechanical modifications to the transmission like a shift kit until you have used the Superchip for at least a month or so. Many people, most in fact, find that the Superchip does just what they want to the shifts without making them harsh. The Superchip will do things the shift kit cannot, such as remove the various delays & retards that are in the powertrain program, and conversely, the shift kit can do things the Superchip cannot, such as open up certain orifices to flow more fluid *volume*. What we generally advise is to use the Superchip for awhile, until you know just how it shifts in a number of different driving situations, before deciding that you want to do the shift kit as well. If you do decide to add a shift kit later on, we generally suggest using a kit that has multiple stages, and install it on one of the lighter firmness levels. You can always go back and open things up more if you want an even harder shift, and you don't want to go too far to start off with and end up with a shift that is too harsh on part-throttle, for example.
Generally speaking, if you are looking for a tire-chirping screech-bang kind of shift, you'll want to use both the Superchip and a good shift kit in the 4R70W automatic. In the 4R100 automatics, the Superchip and the line mod valve will do that very nicely. Otherwise, just use the Superchip, as it will take care of all the program issues, and can easily work with a shift kit should you decide to go that far.
If you want to go over this in detail and make sure you get exactly what you want, please feel free to give us a shout, our contact info is just below.
I'll second that, welcome to F-150 Online!
In the dual-octane Flip Chip for the non-Lightning F-150, we do the same changes to improve automatic transmission shifting that we do on the premium gas side. We want you to have all the other benefits no matter what octane level you're running, so that even on the 87 octane program you'll have a little bit better acceleration, the shifts will be improved just as on Side 2 in the premium gas program and the powertrain will be much more responsive overall, with the various delays & regards removed.
That non-Lightning F-150 application is a bit different than what we do in the Lightning version of the Flip Chip, as in the Lightning, there is no low-octane program, it requires the use of premium gas from the factory and on both sides of the Flip Chip. What spanky777will was kind enough to post (thanks!) is also correct, on Side 1 of most of our Lightning Flip Chip combos you also have the changes to improve automatic transmission shift characteristics.
To answer your question specifically about how does the transmission shift in the low octane position, the only difference is that it may seem a tiny bit less firm that on the premium gas side, simply because you'll have less engine power available than in the premium gas program, and that sometimes makes the shifts seem a tad less firm. However, we're doing all the same changes to the transmission program on both sides in that dual-octane configuration, so my suggestion would be to wait on doing mechanical modifications to the transmission like a shift kit until you have used the Superchip for at least a month or so. Many people, most in fact, find that the Superchip does just what they want to the shifts without making them harsh. The Superchip will do things the shift kit cannot, such as remove the various delays & retards that are in the powertrain program, and conversely, the shift kit can do things the Superchip cannot, such as open up certain orifices to flow more fluid *volume*. What we generally advise is to use the Superchip for awhile, until you know just how it shifts in a number of different driving situations, before deciding that you want to do the shift kit as well. If you do decide to add a shift kit later on, we generally suggest using a kit that has multiple stages, and install it on one of the lighter firmness levels. You can always go back and open things up more if you want an even harder shift, and you don't want to go too far to start off with and end up with a shift that is too harsh on part-throttle, for example.
Generally speaking, if you are looking for a tire-chirping screech-bang kind of shift, you'll want to use both the Superchip and a good shift kit in the 4R70W automatic. In the 4R100 automatics, the Superchip and the line mod valve will do that very nicely. Otherwise, just use the Superchip, as it will take care of all the program issues, and can easily work with a shift kit should you decide to go that far.
If you want to go over this in detail and make sure you get exactly what you want, please feel free to give us a shout, our contact info is just below.
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What Mike said!
I've been very pleased with my Flipchip, and have spent plenty of time in the 87 octane position! Through personal experience I have noticed that the shift are firmer in the high octane position, but I have also experienced that the shifts get firmer relative to the amount of throttle in both positions! Get on the gas, and the shifts get firmer! Of course in the high octane position the engine is producing more power, so even moderate throttle will produce firmer shifts.
Just don't ask me why! That's Mike's department, I fly by the seat of my pants! Good luck!
I've been very pleased with my Flipchip, and have spent plenty of time in the 87 octane position! Through personal experience I have noticed that the shift are firmer in the high octane position, but I have also experienced that the shifts get firmer relative to the amount of throttle in both positions! Get on the gas, and the shifts get firmer! Of course in the high octane position the engine is producing more power, so even moderate throttle will produce firmer shifts.
Just don't ask me why! That's Mike's department, I fly by the seat of my pants! Good luck!
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Mike,
I've been here lurking in the shadows! Every once in a while a topic jumps out and prompts me to add my 2 cents! All is well here!
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PaulT,
I can add to this post.
For the last year I have have a flip chip on my 4x4. Have been very pleased with it. It is set up just as Mike T. describes above. I have never run the chip in the low octane position because I don't mind spending a little extra for better performance.
Well coincidently, just today for the first time ever, I put low octane in the truck and ran the chip on the low octane setting. I plan to remove the chip from the 4x4 in the next couple of weeks, have Mike T. reflash it, and put it in my L. Since I am removing the chip, I want to get "used" to putting low octane gas in the truck since high octane will do it no good without the chip. I will get a new chip (or microtuner?..Mike can explain better) at a later date for the 4x4 for both performance reasons, and to recalibrate my speedomoter for the 4.10's.
Anyway...I noticed immediately the decrease in power with the chip on the low octane setting as compared to the high octane setting. However, the shifts were still about the same as on the high octane setting, maybe a tad bit less, but way better than stock.
Hope this helps.
GDG
I can add to this post.
For the last year I have have a flip chip on my 4x4. Have been very pleased with it. It is set up just as Mike T. describes above. I have never run the chip in the low octane position because I don't mind spending a little extra for better performance.
Well coincidently, just today for the first time ever, I put low octane in the truck and ran the chip on the low octane setting. I plan to remove the chip from the 4x4 in the next couple of weeks, have Mike T. reflash it, and put it in my L. Since I am removing the chip, I want to get "used" to putting low octane gas in the truck since high octane will do it no good without the chip. I will get a new chip (or microtuner?..Mike can explain better) at a later date for the 4x4 for both performance reasons, and to recalibrate my speedomoter for the 4.10's.
Anyway...I noticed immediately the decrease in power with the chip on the low octane setting as compared to the high octane setting. However, the shifts were still about the same as on the high octane setting, maybe a tad bit less, but way better than stock.
Hope this helps.
GDG
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Hi GDG,
You have a lot of very nice mods to that Super Crew! We ahve the same combination now, an '01 5.4 Lariat ORP for our 4X4, and the '01 Lightning. It gets expensive modifying 2 trucks, doesn't it?
Congrats on the new Lightning!
You have a lot of very nice mods to that Super Crew! We ahve the same combination now, an '01 5.4 Lariat ORP for our 4X4, and the '01 Lightning. It gets expensive modifying 2 trucks, doesn't it?
Congrats on the new Lightning!
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Thanks Mike,
I am really happy with the performance of the 4x4. I can't believe how well that 2.75 ton beast can move sometimes. The mods really made it come alive. The superchip really helped too of course and it was one of the very first mods I made to it!! I will miss the chip in the 4x4 until the new microtuners become available. However, it will be put to good use. Yes, modifying two vehicles is costly, but then I am no spring chicken anymore, and as they say, you can't take it with you. I realized that when I started thinking strongly of putting a supercharger on the 4x4 for performance reasons that maybe it was more prudent to get the L. We needed another vehicle in the family anyway, so I just decided to go for it.
GDG
I am really happy with the performance of the 4x4. I can't believe how well that 2.75 ton beast can move sometimes. The mods really made it come alive. The superchip really helped too of course and it was one of the very first mods I made to it!! I will miss the chip in the 4x4 until the new microtuners become available. However, it will be put to good use. Yes, modifying two vehicles is costly, but then I am no spring chicken anymore, and as they say, you can't take it with you. I realized that when I started thinking strongly of putting a supercharger on the 4x4 for performance reasons that maybe it was more prudent to get the L. We needed another vehicle in the family anyway, so I just decided to go for it.
GDG
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Hi GDG,
Sounds just like us. We have to have a 4X4, so the Lightning had to wait until it could be a "toy". We'll end up putting a supercharger on our regular F-150 as well. It, like yours, is very heavy, well over 5500 lbs. Stock, it ran a whopping 18.4 @ 80 in the 1/4 mile. We wouldn't have even bothered had it not been for the fact that we're closely tracking every mod for results & MPG.
It's a great combination, a Lightning and a 5.4 Lariat 4X4 ORP, but it is expensiveto have a pair of new F-150's that heavily decked out & loaded, to say nothing of the cost to modify both of them!
We're enjoying our pair of F-150's, I know you're enjoying yours. We'll have to get together sometime, maybe at one of our rallys or drag strip days.
Sounds just like us. We have to have a 4X4, so the Lightning had to wait until it could be a "toy". We'll end up putting a supercharger on our regular F-150 as well. It, like yours, is very heavy, well over 5500 lbs. Stock, it ran a whopping 18.4 @ 80 in the 1/4 mile. We wouldn't have even bothered had it not been for the fact that we're closely tracking every mod for results & MPG.
It's a great combination, a Lightning and a 5.4 Lariat 4X4 ORP, but it is expensiveto have a pair of new F-150's that heavily decked out & loaded, to say nothing of the cost to modify both of them!
We're enjoying our pair of F-150's, I know you're enjoying yours. We'll have to get together sometime, maybe at one of our rallys or drag strip days.
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Hi Mike,
Yes, it would be a blast to get together for a rally or drag strip day. I would be fun to put faces with voices and signatures, and just being at the track with other fellow F-150 owners. I simply must plan on doing that in the near future. I am making a mental note to keep up with the events and happenings.
GDG
Yes, it would be a blast to get together for a rally or drag strip day. I would be fun to put faces with voices and signatures, and just being at the track with other fellow F-150 owners. I simply must plan on doing that in the near future. I am making a mental note to keep up with the events and happenings.
GDG
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Hi GDG,
Yes, it's always fun to put the faces together with the personalities, as there are always surprises once you actually see the people behind all these monitor screens!
We have a blast at our rallys, drag strip events, etc., & we make sure to publicise it right here, so as long as you're around here even on a semi-regular basis, you probably won't miss those announcements.
I'm sure we'll be able to get together at one of the events next year!
Yes, it's always fun to put the faces together with the personalities, as there are always surprises once you actually see the people behind all these monitor screens!
We have a blast at our rallys, drag strip events, etc., & we make sure to publicise it right here, so as long as you're around here even on a semi-regular basis, you probably won't miss those announcements.
I'm sure we'll be able to get together at one of the events next year!