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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Anybody no of a fairly inexpensive software that allows a laptop or PC to view real time date through the OBDII link? And maybe make minor adjustments?
Just curious. There are a few minor changes I would like to make. Such as I don't like how the overdrive kicks in at 40 and takes the RPM to 1000. then when I have to accelerate, it has to kick out before getting good pick-up.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fclementsjr
Anybody no of a fairly inexpensive software that allows a laptop or PC to view real time date through the OBDII link? And maybe make minor adjustments?
Just curious. There are a few minor changes I would like to make. Such as I don't like how the overdrive kicks in at 40 and takes the RPM to 1000. then when I have to accelerate, it has to kick out before getting good pick-up.
View - yes.

Minor adjustments - no. ( and for this you really need to know what yer doing - otherwise ...boom).

The software used to alter PCM parameters is neither cheap nor free.

In either case - you'll need to build or buy a hardware interface. There are no USB ports on a Ford PCM, nor are there any J1962 connectors on a laptop: http://pinoutsguide.com/CarElectroni...2_pinout.shtml

Sources:

http://www.obd-ii.de/screensm2.html

http://www.tucows.com/preview/517789

http://www.obd2crazy.com/software.html


http://www.sctflash.com/products.php?PID=43&VID=

http://www.deltaforcetuning.com/


...many more with a simple Google search.


And - in case yer thinking tuning a Ford EECV+ PCM is trivial - look at the kind of training that SCT's dealers get: http://www.sctflash.com/scttraining.php.

You'll also want/need a wideband, at minimum, if yer serious: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php

Yer best bet? SCT products. If you buy a progammer you can use their free software (Livelink) to do this:

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And the device has end-user adjustments for several PCM parameters. The handheld is also used as the PC <--> PCM interface.

Above all - it's SAFE, and it works. See my sig fer links to SCT dealers.


So - don't be 'skeered'.. jump right in thar, sir!

OR - you could just buy an Edge canned device and try to fart around with the shift schedules to attempt to address yer originally posted issue, lol. You can monitor some stuff too. (But there is nowhere near the extensible functionality compared to what SCT offers).

Lastly - if you just want to monitor - get this: www.scanguage.com

There. I just ran outta chit to post

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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Very nice MGDfan.....
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Great info. I will look into all of them.
As far as the adjustments, I was only thinking of minor, non life threatening (No timing or such), like the shift point for the overdrive.
I guess my main concern is the OD. It has done it since I got it (30K now 173K). It seems to shift into OD too early. If I try to lightly accelerate when it does this, I get a VERY slow increase in speed. I have to actually give it a moderate amount of peddle before it kicks out and then the acceleration is fine. It kicks in about 40-45 and the RPM's drop to right at 1000. Can the dealer make the adjustment? I think 50 would be about correct.
As far as the monitoring, I feel it would be good to have to be able to compare past and present reading to tell if something is getting weak. That way I could replace it BEFORE I get a nasty surprise (Thinking about all 3 vehicles).
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fclementsjr
MGDfan:
Great info. I will look into all of them.
As far as the adjustments, I was only thinking of minor, non life threatening (No timing or such), like the shift point for the overdrive.
I guess my main concern is the OD. It has done it since I got it (30K now 173K). It seems to shift into OD too early. If I try to lightly accelerate when it does this, I get a VERY slow increase in speed. I have to actually give it a moderate amount of peddle before it kicks out and then the acceleration is fine. It kicks in about 40-45 and the RPM's drop to right at 1000. Can the dealer make the adjustment? I think 50 would be about correct.
As far as the monitoring, I feel it would be good to have to be able to compare past and present reading to tell if something is getting weak. That way I could replace it BEFORE I get a nasty surprise (Thinking about all 3 vehicles).
What all are your three vehicles?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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My vehicles are 01 F150 SuperCrew 4x4 4.6L 173K miles, 04 Dodge Intrepid SE 2.7L 81K miles, & a 99 Dodge Dakota 5.2L 120K miles.


And, No I am not a Dodge fan.
 

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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fclementsjr
MGDfan:
Great info. I will look into all of them.
As far as the adjustments, I was only thinking of minor, non life threatening (No timing or such), like the shift point for the overdrive.
I guess my main concern is the OD. It has done it since I got it (30K now 173K). It seems to shift into OD too early. If I try to lightly accelerate when it does this, I get a VERY slow increase in speed. I have to actually give it a moderate amount of peddle before it kicks out and then the acceleration is fine. It kicks in about 40-45 and the RPM's drop to right at 1000. Can the dealer make the adjustment? I think 50 would be about correct.
As far as the monitoring, I feel it would be good to have to be able to compare past and present reading to tell if something is getting weak. That way I could replace it BEFORE I get a nasty surprise (Thinking about all 3 vehicles).

you mention not wanting to make life changing changes, then you start talking about changing the 3rd-4th shift


that shift claims more motors than anything else (besides maybe the 4th-2nd shift
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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When I said life threatening I guess I should have said dramatic. What I am thinking is a 5 mph adjustment up which equates to about 200+/- RPM change to the shift point so that the RPM's stay a couple hundred above 1000.
As far as my concern about the OD,
"It has done it since I got it (30K now 173K). It seems to shift into OD too early. If I try to lightly accelerate when it does this, I get a VERY slow increase in speed. I have to actually give it a moderate amount of peddle before it kicks out and then the acceleration is fine. It kicks in about 40-45 and the RPM's drop to right at 1000."
Does this sound out of the norm to anybody?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Why don't you just hit the OD button? That's a lot easier and cheaper than messing with the PCM. It's set to shift early and stay in OD for fuel mileage reasons.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Why don't you just hit the OD button? That's a lot easier and cheaper than messing with the PCM. It's set to shift early and stay in OD for fuel mileage reasons.
plus the 4.6 needs to rev to make power
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by fclementsjr
"It has done it since I got it (30K now 173K). It seems to shift into OD too early. If I try to lightly accelerate when it does this, I get a VERY slow increase in speed. I have to actually give it a moderate amount of peddle before it kicks out and then the acceleration is fine. It kicks in about 40-45 and the RPM's drop to right at 1000."
Does this sound out of the norm to anybody?
No, that is how mine worked. I set the lighter throttle shift points to ~ 45mph and eliminated the constant feeling of wanting to turn off the OD.
 
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