programer/tuner
Just to muddy or clarify a little more. I ran the Edge canned tunes, level 3, for about 31,000 miles. I have run the custom tune for about 36,000, mostly 87 Performance tune. The custom tune are worth it even if you have no CAI. I have the modified stock intake. The Edge canned tunes are good, I kept level 2 for the little towing I do, but Bill tweaked the canned tunes for the Gryphon a little. I understand they are good. But, I get better performance out of the 87 Perf custom tune than I did out of level 3 on 93 octane. Primarily the downshifting. Power is about the same.
Then ask yourself do I tow?
If your strictly looking for the biggest performance gains then go with a 91-93 custom performance tune.
Or
If you like running 87-89 octane gas then go with that.
Not all trucks will give you the same mpg's on return if custom tunes are used. Some see 1-2mpg increases others have none.
I got very little improved mileage if any with the tune, but what I got was a truck that runs like a scalded ape on 87. So, I am saving the dollars of having to buy the premium for level 3.
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Jim
Jim
To begin with choosing a custom tune. You need to look at what octane gas you use?
Then ask yourself do I tow?
If your strictly looking for the biggest performance gains then go with a 91-93 custom performance tune.
Or
If you like running 87-89 octane gas then go with that.
Not all trucks will give you the same mpg's on return if custom tunes are used. Some see 1-2mpg increases others have none.
Then ask yourself do I tow?
If your strictly looking for the biggest performance gains then go with a 91-93 custom performance tune.
Or
If you like running 87-89 octane gas then go with that.
Not all trucks will give you the same mpg's on return if custom tunes are used. Some see 1-2mpg increases others have none.
The responses I'm getting are discouraging...I really wanted to try to ensure at least a little gain in economy but sounds like that may or may NOT happen.
I'd like to try to talk to PHP staff directly in determining my choice. However, I read the post concerning personal issues the owners are having. Might be best to wait awhile.
I use 87 and tow 5 to 6 times per year....pulling a little pop-up camper that weighs approximately 2,000 lbs. That's about it really.
The responses I'm getting are discouraging...I really wanted to try to ensure at least a little gain in economy but sounds like that may or may NOT happen.
I'd like to try to talk to PHP staff directly in determining my choice. However, I read the post concerning personal issues the owners are having. Might be best to wait awhile.
The responses I'm getting are discouraging...I really wanted to try to ensure at least a little gain in economy but sounds like that may or may NOT happen.
I'd like to try to talk to PHP staff directly in determining my choice. However, I read the post concerning personal issues the owners are having. Might be best to wait awhile.
Then if you ever wanted to pull anything bigger then the pop up you could always use the canned tow tune.
Hopefully sometime next week PHP will be back open but I don't want to speculate.
I don't know what its like to loose my father or a sister within 2 months of each other.
Just give them some time.
Php's perf tunes limit out at 2500 lbs for towing. So then alls you'd need is a 87 oct performance tune.
Then if you ever wanted to pull anything bigger then the pop up you could always use the canned tow tune.
Hopefully sometime next week PHP will be back open but I don't want to speculate.
I don't know what its like to loose my father or a sister within 2 months of each other.
Just give them some time.
Then if you ever wanted to pull anything bigger then the pop up you could always use the canned tow tune.
Hopefully sometime next week PHP will be back open but I don't want to speculate.
I don't know what its like to loose my father or a sister within 2 months of each other.
Just give them some time.




