Hello all,

I recently installed an Edge programmer for use primarily while towing. I have noticed the changes as advertised, but I would like to understand some of the other monitor functions better.

Obviously there are a lot of different items the Edge can monitor. Temps, etc. This is great, but where can I find a list of the acceptable levels for these monitor points? In other words, it's great to know that the engine is running at 190 degrees, or the trans fluid is xxx degrees but what does that really mean? What are acceptable levels for these monitor points?

If I have no idea of what the data means, what good is it?

Sorry if this is a far too basic question, but I've been looking for some sort of reference. Not finding much on the Edge site or here. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

 

Some of the info is in your trucks manual, but mostly, I have learned through working on cars and trucks or reading on here. Use the Search tab to hunt specific info that you want to know.

You will find that you have a 195 degree thermostat and the 5.4 3v operates most efficiently up to about 210. Anything over that and you are beginning to overheat. There have been threads that discuss transmission temp and how it ranges from 150(or cooler) to 180, depending on weather conditions. That when you are towing and it starts approching 200, you are over heating. You will discover that the voltage needs to read around 14 volts to keep the battery charged. These are a few that come to mind. Search on any subect, using the Advanced Search, see what you get.

 

Every time I see a post like this, I have to smile. The trouble is, there don't really seem to be any "hard and fast" limits published. However, after a LOT of looking, and not just in this forum, I came up with this information:

Operating Limits

Hope this helps.

- Jack

 

Thanks Jack, this does help some. I hope someone can respond with intelligent answers here. I did try seaching, but maybe I usd the wrong terms. I didn't find what I was after. Maybe I need to be specific to the information I'm looking for...one at a time.

My question, to me at least, seems simple. Where do I find a comprehensive list of acceptable range numbers that are monitored in the Edge. It seems to me that the guys at Edge would have this information since they report it, but maybe not. Based on initial response there might not be a list anywhere, but shouldn't there be?

for those who would rather send "flame" replies or "use the search engine" (only) replies, please move along. there is nothing here to see. I've tried that. sorry to bother you with our puny little brains. Jim, thank you for your reply. You suggested the search engine for the specific items but also offered some good advice and information. Much appreciated.

Mike

 

I suspect that Edge did not include that info for several reasons. One, they are programmers and may not know all the info. Plus, the stats can change depending on conditions and truck modifications and lastly, they may have felt that specific type info that might be taken as absolute might be used against them in a lawsuit. In other words, less info could be protection for them.

 

Honestly, Mike, you did not use the wrong "search terms" - I don't think the "redline" information exists.

I think Ford is trying harder and harder to take that knowledge away from us, since we cannot be trusted with it.

Do you know there's no transmission dipstick in the new 2010 F150's? Ford probably does not trust us to fill the thing, if needed, with the proper type of fluid, so, there's no "simple" way to check the fluid level. However, when you take it in to the dealership for its required servicing, they'll make sure everything is OK.

- Jack

 

are you serious? No dipstick on the 2010? How are you supposed to change the fluid yourself? this just doesnt seem right. lol

 

This was Bill Cohron's thought about the "no dipstick" situation: "Yeah... sometimes thinking "outside the box" isn't the best thing in the world. I think the biggest concern was that the new ATF is NOT COMPATIBLE with ANYTHING on the street right now and by allowing the customer to check and/or add fluid, it would have possibly ruined a number of transmissions."

There actually IS a dipstick of sorts though. This is from 88racing: "[It's] a threaded plug style dipstick on the transmission located on the passenger side on top of the tranny located right by a cat. So good luck checking the level when its hot!"

- Jack

 

interesting, i have not heard this before. so they are using a new fluid as well? seems like they will have to have this out on the market soon, people will need a transmission flush!

anyway interesting information.

 

Good question.

 

There is no transmission dipstick on my dads 99 mercedes ml320 it has 60,000 miles and every service he takes it to san antonio and he keeps asking them to check it and there reply is "it dont need to be checked until atleast 100,000 miles because it has full synthetic fluid" he just recently took it and got a transmission fluid change done locally and the guys said the fluid and filter looked brand new and it wouldve lasted 100,000 miles easily