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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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Edge or Transmission Problem?

Hi i am new here and normally i can find answers to my questions just searching around thanks to this forum. I have not been able to find anything in the search for this problem.

I have a 2007 super cab 4.6 with 43000. I bough an Edge Evo and installed it about 2 weeks ago. Before I installed it i was not haveing any problems with my transmission but after i installed it I have gotten 2 codes P0731 and P061F. i get the code P0731 in the morning when i start my truck and drive down the road (not even a quarter mile) the the o/d light flashes and "TRANS FAULT" displays (has happened twice). the other code, P0761F i got yesterday on my way home from work. I was at a stop light on a slight hill and when i pressed the gas my transmission slipped and the truck lost all power. In both cases I stop the truck turn it off and start it back up the truck runs fine.

I am running the edge on power level 2. I don't know if this has anything to do with the edge or if my transmission is going bad?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Try returning you truc to stock to see if its the edge or your truck. also there is a search feature on the top of the page, try that and you'll find alot of info. good luck
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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I don't recall anyone having that problem. Like was said, try returning to stock and see if you still get the code. If not, then call Edge and see what they can tell you.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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I did a search on code P0731 and it seems to mean that there is no first gear.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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did you customize the settings? check to see if you have enough rpm diff between the max shift rpms, and the rev limiter. i was messing around with the settings and didnt raise the limiter up after bumping the shift rpm up and it did something what you said your is doing.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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I reset my truck to stock and have not got the code yet but i have only driven it to work. I the only custom setting i changed was the gears from 3.73 to 3.55. After I cahanged the gears is when i got the code P0761F. Before i changed the gears i only got the P0731 code. I will run it on stock for a while and see if the problem continues. Could it be anything with the firmware or drivers. I just got the Edge and it told me to update before installing, could this be the problem? I am new to the programers this is my first one.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yjnut
I reset my truck to stock and have not got the code yet but i have only driven it to work. I the only custom setting i changed was the gears from 3.73 to 3.55. After I cahanged the gears is when i got the code P0761F. Before i changed the gears i only got the P0731 code. I will run it on stock for a while and see if the problem continues. Could it be anything with the firmware or drivers. I just got the Edge and it told me to update before installing, could this be the problem? I am new to the programers this is my first one.
The firmware update COULD be the problem. Go to the Edge website and download "Fusion", I think it is now. Make sure your unit is set back to stock (Level 0) and see if there are any firmware or version updates.

When you plug the thing back into your truck, you should NOT have to use the "Custom Options" menu unless you are running with non-stock tires or a Gear Ratio (GR) that was not put in at the factory. If you choose an advanced level and bypass the Custom Options, the Tire Size (TS) and GR data will be taken from the VID section of your PCM - and they should be correct!

But - if you even just "open" the Custom Options menu, bogus "placeholder" values are loaded for TS and GR. You will have to manually set BOTH of them to make sure they are valid!

Hope this is helpful. It's taken me a good six months to begin to understand it. If you continue to have problems, talk to Edge Tech Support.

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Old May 1, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Thanks for explaining the TS and GR issue. I was confused as to why it would show the wrong values when i would check them.

Does anybody know if Edge recently came out with new firmware. I updated mine when i got it so it should have the most updated version.
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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If you having trouble getting ahold of Edge contact Bill at PHP here... http://www.phptune.com/ He used to work for Edge, and knows his stuff. other then that, are you stuck in 2ed gear? if so check your fuses iunder the hood, i had that proublem, ended up buying a new trans beore i found that fuse. what driveabilty issues are you having, or is it just the CEL?
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Jack, are you saying that the updates from Edge reads the gear ratio from the PCM? I know the older software does not. I always had to change my gears with the canned programs, plus, when Bill wrote my custom tunes, he got my gears right in the 93 Perf tune, but wrong in the 87 Perf tune. I always have to change it.
 
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Originally Posted by Bluejay
Jack, are you saying that the updates from Edge reads the gear ratio from the PCM? I know the older software does not. I always had to change my gears with the canned programs, plus, when Bill wrote my custom tunes, he got my gears right in the 93 Perf tune, but wrong in the 87 Perf tune. I always have to change it.
According to Bill (I think I've got this right now), when you program the PCM and completely bypass the Custom Options menu, the GR and TS are taken from the VID section of your PCM (don't you love these acronyms?) and the VID is a part of the PCM that was set at the factory and cannot be changed. Bill can override both the VID TS and GR here too in his custom tune.

If you have to change your shift firmness, you'll have to open the Custom Options menu. At that instant, "placeholder" values are going to be copied from the "Calibration" area of the PCM and they could easily be incorrect. My TS always is, but my GR is right. However, if you've previously created a "Custom Options" tune, you can immediately scroll to "Load Previous Settings" and if you select it you should find that valid numbers for GR and TS have been reloaded.

Is it possible that you changed your tires sometime between getting the 93 and 87 perf tunes? That might explain why you have to manually enter something (beyond your need to adjust the shift firmness to your liking).

Here's a link to a post Bill made on PHP's forum that explains this in detail: http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...93&postcount=6

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Old May 1, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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According to Bill (I think I've got this right now), when you program the PCM and completely bypass the Custom Options menu, the GR and TS are taken from the VID section of your PCM (don't you love these acronyms?) and the VID is a part of the PCM that was set at the factory and cannot be changed. Bill can override both the VID TS and GR here too in his custom tune.

If you have to change your shift firmness, you'll have to open the Custom Options menu. At that instant, "placeholder" values are going to be copied from the "Calibration" area of the PCM and they could easily be incorrect. My TS always is, but my GR is right. However, if you've previously created a "Custom Options" tune, you can immediately scroll to "Load Previous Settings" and if you select it you should find that valid numbers for GR and TS have been reloaded.

Is it possible that you changed your tires sometime between getting the 93 and 87 perf tunes? That might explain why you have to manually enter something (beyond your need to adjust the shift firmness to your liking).

Here's a link to a post Bill made on PHP's forum that explains this in detail: http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...93&postcount=6

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Ok, I remeber now, what you said. When I openned the canned tune to customize it, it was then reading what Edge had programmed, that is why the wrong gears came up. And when I was setting my tires in the custom program, it went to the program and that is where Bill forgot to enter my 3.55s. He said he could fix it, but I never messed with it. Too easy to set them myself as I change tire sizes often.
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Ok, I remeber now, what you said. When I openned the canned tune to customize it, it was then reading what Edge had programmed, that is why the wrong gears came up. And when I was setting my tires in the custom program, it went to the program and that is where Bill forgot to enter my 3.55s. He said he could fix it, but I never messed with it. Too easy to set them myself as I change tire sizes often.
Don't worry it threw me off too! At first, then Bill+Jack expained it and it all came together. Kind of a bad deal if you just want to check "your" settings. It just shows those other place holders and doesn't display what you want to see. Just got to have faith they are in there.
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Don't worry it threw me off too! At first, then Bill+Jack expained it and it all came together. Kind of a bad deal if you just want to check "your" settings. It just shows those other place holders and doesn't display what you want to see. Just got to have faith they are in there.
And what's worse, if you hit "Done" with the placeholder values showing, I'm 99% positive the placeholder values get loaded. This is the whole purpose of "Load Previous Settings" - to relieve you of the tedium of reentering your specific values individually each time you use the Custom Options menu.

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Old May 1, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Wonder if Bill could "fix" this?
 
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