Too cold to install the Edge today?

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
Change the battery - from your sig, the dealer can do it with little or no cost to you. I wouldn't trust your battery for anything more than a doorstop.

And, drive the truck to warm the PCM before yo9u try any programming. -1? Yuk! It's been a long time since I've seen anything like that!

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Jack, Thank you for your detailed reply. I can say i understand it better..ty.. Now i only have a million other. But another time, another place..

Also at -1 if Greencrews battery died do you really think he needs a new one already? His truck is an 08. Couldnt the weather have effected it and simply just charge it back up.. Sure mines going on 5 years old so i can see needing a new one. But i guess if its under warranty go for it, just wouldnt wanna waste my time if it just needed a charge.. And sometimes im even affraid to leave it in there hands..

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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Tony, I think I'm reacting to the fact that the battery was too weak to start the truck after sitting for only a week in a garage. I would not expect it to die that quickly. I doubt if the temperature in his garage was much below freezing since the garage is attached to the house, but even if it was separate, it would be warmer in there than outside.

There may be other factors at play here, but I do know that deep-discharging automotive batteries is definitely bad for their overall health. It causes buildups on the plates that distort their shape which can lead to internal shorts.

He CAN have it load tested, but I'm not sure I'd even trust it then.

And, batteries CAN be defective even if brand-new!

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 05:15 AM
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Now that I've fully charged the battery is starts better than it ever has, which is reason for more concern. The system should have fully charged the battery just like the maintainer did.

I'm really starting to like that maintainer. Just plug it into the cigarette lighter, find an outlet and forget it. I think I'll use the maintainer when I get to installing the Edge.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Now that I've fully charged the battery is starts better than it ever has, which is reason for more concern. The system should have fully charged the battery just like the maintainer did.

I'm really starting to like that maintainer. Just plug it into the cigarette lighter, find an outlet and forget it. I think I'll use the maintainer when I get to installing the Edge.
One thing i found that also helps is when you go to program your truck is to turn everything off, have the doors shut, and all the fan motors and dash controls off. I think it says something about that in the manual.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by greencrew
Now that I've fully charged the battery is starts better than it ever has, which is reason for more concern. The system should have fully charged the battery just like the maintainer did.

I'm really starting to like that maintainer. Just plug it into the cigarette lighter, find an outlet and forget it. I think I'll use the maintainer when I get to installing the Edge.
Since starting takes quite a lot of power, it might take a fairly long bit of driving to completely recharge the battery. Low speed driving, stopped at idle, driving at night with the headlights on, using the AC/heater blower, even the radio, ALL reduce the charging capability of the alternator to some extent. And, anything that pulls power out of the battery while the truck is parked (such as opening the doors or having the headlights come on) will help to deplete the battery charge too.

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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JackandJanet
Since starting takes quite a lot of power, it might take a fairly long bit of driving to completely recharge the battery. Low speed driving, stopped at idle, driving at night with the headlights on, using the AC/heater blower, even the radio, ALL reduce the charging capability of the alternator to some extent. And, anything that pulls power out of the battery while the truck is parked (such as opening the doors or having the headlights come on) will help to deplete the battery charge too.- Jack
All good points, but I did not have this problem with my last three trucks, and they were all parked in the same parking spot and driven shorter distances than this SuperCrew has with gas under $2.
 
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