How could the EPA ban legal custom tunes? I could see if someone was selling tuning that broke emissions standards, but the vast majority of canned and custom tunes far out perform stock vehicle emission standards.

 

stealth-great point-i know my troyer 93 performance tune emmision results blow away the stock readings-i know in my field-hvac-epa has their nose in that too-the residential market is going to r410a refrigerant over r22-supposedly it's fine for the atmosphere- but we must still recover it- why? probably the same reason with the tuning- $$$$$$$$$-phil

 

So they're going to create a black market, just like everything else that's banned. Though custom tunes are a drug to many.

 

yeah and i'm an addict -phil

 

Looks like I'll have to get on the ball and get those custom tunes ordered before I have to go to the downtown street corner for a fix.

 

My truck passed the Texas emmissions test on the the Edge Level 3 running 93.

 

I have to get mine inspected soon too. I'm going to switch to stock tomorrow before the oil change since I need to try and do man update.

 

The problem, as I see it, is that custom tuning is generally done outside of the paramaters of a test facility (ie. Dyno, 5-gas analyzer, etc.) and the subsequent calibrations therefore will fall outside of what CARB and EPA feels to be "certifiable".

You are right that it would create a "Black Market", but the questions is does anyone really want to take that risk for fear of remuneration by CARB and the EPA? Is it worth losing your livelihood? It may be worth it to some but when they come a-knockin', don't start cryin'...

Granted, there may be ways to work around this. Maybe certifying tunes that could be available as an option for common kits like a CAI and exhaust, specific setups for superchargers. Stuff like that. I know certification is not cheap or easy. We had to go through that at Superchips and it was a pain. Maybe other options are available that would allow companies to provide custom tuning within a stable test environment with assurances that all tunes will be able to meet the stringent emmisions standards. Who knows?

Anyway, it is going to be interesting to see where this all heads over the next several months.

Take care.

Bill

 

If you haven't already returned to stock, DON'T! Reprogramming the PCM clears the I/M system readiness status and resets the P1000 DTC. You'll have to go through the stinkin' driving procedure until the code goes away before you take the test and that can be a pain. The procedure is around here somewhere if you are so inclined, but I'm too lazy to find it.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Later.

Bill

 

So what are they going to do about shops that currently do custom tuning? Take them to jail and strip them of their American dreams?

 

That's what I do every time. Drive it a while before I take it in, about a week. I put 50 miles a day on the truck. No problems thus far.

 

You can drive it for a week on the stock tune? WOW!

 

Yeah, not fun, but I'm leary of anyone messing with my OBDII port.

 

That was why I went to Johnney's instead of the dealership. I knew Johnny didn't have any programs to be sticking in it whereas County Line does.

 

Yeah, but who knows what can/will happen. Better safe than sorry.