testimonials? I see alot of people with Edge Evolution, a few with Hypertech Max Energy. is it just that Hypertech is too new? Cost is similar (Hypertech @ $379, Edge @ ~$450), but I like the Edge with it's mount. Any problems running either with CAI and Exhaust? I plan on running either Banks or S&B intake, and Banks Monster single out or Maggie dual side out. It seems here some people are fine, some seem to run lean...is it an easy fix? Thank you.

 

Edge is working very hard to resolve the current issues with the Evolution but I would completely understand if you were to look at products from other companies. I can't speak intelligently about other products as I have not used them but I am sure that there are some folks who cam chime in with opinions either for or against various products.

Good luck.

Bill

 

What year truck? Why not Xcal2? I'd get a custom tuned Xcal2 from VMP Tuning.

www.vmptuning.com

 

ASEMechanic: thanks for the input, I'm not swayed yet either way by one company or another...I just haven't heard enough about either. What specific problems did Evo have? Was it simply the lean mix? Is it something that a fix is being worked on that can be downloadable by usb to internet? Or is there more to it? As far as Hypertech, I haven't heard good or bad, only a vid on stylintrucks.com, and who knows if that was swayed from a payoff?

ThumperMX113: truck is an '08 Supercab 5.4L 4x4. Why not Xcal2? Simply because I've never heard of it, and until recently, hadn't heard of the other two! In fact, my last truck was a '99 F-150, and at the time I was only looking at Superchips/Diablosport, things have changed alot since then, as far as I can tell! But thanks for the link, I will definately check it out!

 

It's going to be the best thing you can get thats out there, IMO. I had the Edge and it had horrible driveability, at WOT it felt like the truck was going to blow apart! LOL The only thing the Edge is good for is the gauges but at the price they're trying to sell the Edge at now there is no point, you might as well get the Xcal2.

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...&parent=2&pg=1

 

I just checked out the link, I may be missing something. Is the Xcal2 an actual module or is it the tuning service by sct? I looked around on the site and couldn't find an actual module, only the deposit form for the tuning at the dyno center. And if that's the case, the biggest problem is I'm from Wakefield, MA, and it would be quite a drive to FL just for tuning if the gains are only slightly above the modules available through Edge and Hypertech...no offence of course! But if there is an actual module, can you give a link to it? I will check the site again (it did seem though to be heavily into Mustangs, not so much F-150's). As far as the product goes, does it remove top speed limiter and raise rev limiter as well as change shift points/ firmness among others? Is there any problems associated with it? Is it a safe mod for a N/A, lightly modded (bolt ons) 5.4L? Thanks for your help!

 

Nevermind, I found it with a little looking! lol. Only thing I noticed is it supports 99-04 trucks, didn't mention 05 up. and which one would be the right pick for the truck with Banks exhaust and intake, maggie high flow cats...possibly long tubes in future? regular Xcal2 or the custom Xcal2? also, what is the Xcal 3? just a newer model or something?

 

There was a link to this page on the one I sent to you but it's easy to miss it.

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...parent=66&pg=1

It's a "hand held tuner" that stores custom tunes that Justin will write for your truck. You don't need to drive here although that would be awesome and you could get it on the dyno. I'm running his a custom tuned Xcal2 from VMP Tuning and I love it, a lot of others here have gotten into VMP Tuning lately and are just as happy as me. Yes it removes top speed, changes shift points, all of that. It's completely safe and thats the best part. I think the driveability with the tuned Xcal2 is about the best you're going to get. The Xcal2 is fine, the Xcal3 will work as well. Just let Justin know what mods you have and what you're planning on doing and he'll set it all up.

 

I've had both, well sorta. I had the Hypertech #30143 and currently own the Edge EEF2400. I sold the Hypertech and got the Edge, now I'm selling the Edge and going to get the X-cal. Hypertech didn't make much of a noticeable difference in power that I cold feel. Edge on the other hand did. Feels like a lot more power over stock. So much that when I removed it from the truck for service the wife thought there was something wrong with it (lack of power). Edge, for me, came with a few issues though. with my truck it had the shudder issue when running level 3 and later the screen got a burn in it. I sent it in for a repair. They ended up replacing it with a new unit, not bad considering it was almost two years old to begin with. While they had it the dealer reflash my pcm and it won't work right in my tuck. Apparently their software isn't supporting the new HEX code. So, instead of waiting for tthis thing to work I'm just gonna get an X-cal

 

One last Q, Thumper. Do you recommend dyno tuning at VMP for just a mildly modded truck (as in simply intake and exhaust and using an SCT Xcal2 Custom Tuner)? Is it really necessary or is that something more for the heavy modders? I assume the Xcal2 will tune it for your basic needs, and as I understand, Justin can write a tune for you and email it to you to download to the XCal2 if you add more mods like headers, gears, etc? Thanks again.
Ryan

 

Well since it would be such a drive for you, I would say no unless you were supercharged. Otherwise just get a mail order tune from him, let him know all of your mods and than have him explain "DataLogging" and he'll "tweak" your tune a little bit more.

 

Awesome, thanks so much Thumper. You've been a huge help! I can't wait to get this thing going here! Would you recommend I wait on installing the intake until the Xcal2 arrives, then install intake, then use tuner? Or is it ok to run the truck with intake for a while without tuning?

 

Just wanted to let you know that I'll respond to your email in full a little later tonight. I gotta go out and wash the truck real fast.

 

Thanks again Thumper, your input is very highly regarded. I just recieved an email from Justin and he put my mind very much at ease, especially noting that these trucks can "pick up a ton of power and response from just an 87 octane tune! I'm just waiting to hear from him now if he has the '08 tunes available, but it sounds like I may be in luck. And for a proven product and lots of results he has had with these specific motors and trucks, you really can't beat the price. Now I just need to get out of here and back home to get the wheels rolling, literally! Few more weeks to go...

 

i agree with thumper, i had the edge and it didnt have the best driveability. my truck just didnt like it. i now have a Xcal2 and am waiting on custom tunes from Troyer Performance.