i have a 04 f150 and i'm wanting a tuner to take out my throttle lag and give more take off power and i also want to be able to adjust the shift points especially between 1st and 2nd. i have been looking at the edge and the xcal2 and i also need to know do i need custom tunes or are there anything with the programs built in that would be just as good for me. I need to be able to tow and have performance and i kind of would like to have it now with out the long wait.

 

Get the Edge,on level #2 it will make you happy.

 

where is the cheapest place to buy a edge evolution and will this take out throttle lag and sluggish take off power also will it add enough power where i can feel the power gains in my 04 screw 4x4.

 

http://www.discountpowerparts.com/ca...&products_id=7 Yes, it will take the throttle lag out.

 

i read somewhere out of all my research that i need the xcal2 because the 04's run lean and the edge will not work right and one more thing if the edge will work can i run 93 octane all the time with any of the levels and it work fine because i never know when i would need to go from level 3 to level 2 for towing. i'm ordering one of them tomorrow. thanks.

 

Superchips is a quite popular brand and gives quite some power

 

With the Edge you can add extra fuel at WOT for the 04's problem.

 

Sorry - that's just plain incorrect.

It's been already covered several times - the solution to that problem requires a lot more than just arbitrarily adding fuel @ WOT - you should know better by now .

Search for the details - and the correct solution. and with the Group buy on the Xcal2 in progress right now, it's a real no-brainer on which tuner to buy, IMHO. Do it right - do it safely and get that 04's problems sorted out by the folks who actually know what they're doing.

Cheers
Bubba

 

The Edge will do what you want. You can change your shift points on the Edge by the way. This is from Edge mechanic:

Now, I agree with you 100% that without proper equipment like a wideband AFR, tuning for fuel would generally be a pointless exercise which could end up causing severe engine damage. However, since the Mass Air Meter is controlling AFR in all situations except WOT, there really isn’t any need to pursue any fueling changes except at WOT (which is when it goes open-loop). This is precisely what we allow the user to change. Since we only allow modifications to make the vehicle richer, there really isn’t concern for engine damage. Plus, this allows for fuel enrichment in situations such as exhaust modifications where running a bit lean could be an issue. We also allow for some slight timing modifications based on current fuel quality. This can help pick up some badly needed fuel economy or allow to run a slightly lower fuel quality without risk of detonation.
Here is the link:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...31#post1926131


Also you have to pay to datalog your Xcal II on a dyno if you want a true custom tune.

 

Sounds like a roll of the dice to me. I choose TP so I wouldn’t have to guess at something I know little about

It could turn into an expensive experiment quick

 

I think you have been brain washed......

 

thinking is a start

 

So where are all the damaged motors that Edge caused? It would be all over this site if engines kept being damaged.

 

Can you datalog A/F ratios with just the XCAL2? If not...........how can Mike adjust the tune for it and how is it any better unless you buy extra equipment?

Could you not buy extra equipment to measure A/F ratios and then adjust the WOT fuel on the Edge.

I don't know the answers or even if what I am asking makes sense, I am not trying to start anything.............I'm just very curious.

 

Now who needs to do a search!!!!! I did my homework....The TP tune is awsome if you are going all out(cams,no cats,etc.) for plug and play Edge.You can't beat the gauges,that why SCT is making something like it.I wanted a TP tune,its not a money thing.Its was having something the local Hot Rod shop keeps in stock,and knows what to do if there is a problem.This is not the first truck that I have fixxed up or worked on.Not trying to be a A$$ MGD,just helping others.