edge won't shift at wot!!!
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Originally Posted by Dmoe
Got an email from edge LOL.
Now hows this for somelogic ei: customer service
Bought unit middle of aug and edge is now telling me they will NOT be updating untill middle of sept LOL hwat a joke this outfit is.
Try this on go buy anything from a a pair of boots to a new truck and be told it either wont work or you just cant use it for a month maybe more
freekin morons
Now hows this for somelogic ei: customer service
Bought unit middle of aug and edge is now telling me they will NOT be updating untill middle of sept LOL hwat a joke this outfit is.
Try this on go buy anything from a a pair of boots to a new truck and be told it either wont work or you just cant use it for a month maybe more
freekin morons
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Originally Posted by FX4_Guy
I've never ordered anything from Troyer but from what I've gathered on here....his tuning is also a matter of weeks before he ships you anything. Iis his place a joke also? I don't think so. I would imagine it takes time to get the program from Ford then writing a tune to it. It's not like they said it will be next year before they can get to it. You have to wait in line just like everybody else.
There was no mention from Edge when I bought the POS that It will not work untill they get off there butts and update.
Like I said before They EDGE has everything they need including my money to make the new code all they have to do is do it!
But again they wont because i can only guess they are either too lazy or just dont give a rats azz about it.
Build date for my truck 05/2006
I bought the pos two weeks ago.
Update MIGHT be out sept 15 or so maybe
I will be willing to bet that when they ever do get around to updating they still wont have the right codes for the newer trucks.
Who runs that joint any ways Jethro Bodine?
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aftermarket product manufacturers require time to react to changes in orginal products.. this is no different than any other computer hardware changes that require software, bios, or driver updates.. in fact, it is quite common these days.. i'm not saying you don't have a reason to be upset, just saying that the situation is understandable.. i don't however understand why someone that is so upset says LOL after every sentence..
the restocking fee is BS and any business that is concerned about providing good customer service should waive it for an item such as this..
the restocking fee is BS and any business that is concerned about providing good customer service should waive it for an item such as this..
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I noticed the same problem you described (not shifting at WOT) this morning on the way into work. The difference is, my problem occurs when it downshifts at WOT. This morning I was running about 60 mph and pushed it to the floor to pass a car. It shifted down a couple a gears (I guess it shfited from OD to 2nd) and would not upshift into 3rd. If you let of the throttle slightly, it will shift up. Tried the same thing on the way home from work and same thing. Hmmmm. I did not update the programmer when I bought it a couple of months ago.
Other than this problem, it works awesome! Oh yeah, I have it set on level 3.
Other than this problem, it works awesome! Oh yeah, I have it set on level 3.
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From: Picayune, MS
Originally Posted by yates00
I noticed the same problem you described (not shifting at WOT) this morning on the way into work. The difference is, my problem occurs when it downshifts at WOT. This morning I was running about 60 mph and pushed it to the floor to pass a car. It shifted down a couple a gears (I guess it shfited from OD to 2nd) and would not upshift into 3rd. If you let of the throttle slightly, it will shift up. Tried the same thing on the way home from work and same thing. Hmmmm. I did not update the programmer when I bought it a couple of months ago.
Other than this problem, it works awesome! Oh yeah, I have it set on level 3.
Other than this problem, it works awesome! Oh yeah, I have it set on level 3.
Perhaps you need to fiddle with that setting.
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Originally Posted by jntskip
Have you lowered the RPM for the WOT shifting? Mine is set to shift at 5,250RPM and does it on time with no problem.
Perhaps you need to fiddle with that setting.
Perhaps you need to fiddle with that setting.
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Originally Posted by yates00
I noticed the same problem you described (not shifting at WOT) this morning on the way into work. The difference is, my problem occurs when it downshifts at WOT. This morning I was running about 60 mph and pushed it to the floor to pass a car. It shifted down a couple a gears (I guess it shfited from OD to 2nd) and would not upshift into 3rd. If you let of the throttle slightly, it will shift up. Tried the same thing on the way home from work and same thing. Hmmmm. I did not update the programmer when I bought it a couple of months ago.
Other than this problem, it works awesome! Oh yeah, I have it set on level 3.
Other than this problem, it works awesome! Oh yeah, I have it set on level 3.
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Originally Posted by 05supercrew
I lowered my 1st - 2nd shift point to 5000 rpm`s and uped the rev limiter to 5400 rpm`s. (big difference) stock my truck reved fast and just as it shifted it was hitting the rev limiter.
All the advice on proper shift point settings is already there for the taking - all you gotta do is search...
Originally Posted by Superchips_Distributor
... The *best* shift points are actually 5400 rpm for the 1-2 and the 3-4,and then 4700 rpm for the 3-4. That is what will get you the quickest acceleration without abusing the powertrain. Now if the torque converter was up to it long-term, a 5600 RPM 1-2 would be slightly quicker, but it's not a good idea to wing the stock TQ much beyond 5500 rpm on a frequent basis, so we recommend sticking to 5400 rpm for the 1-2 & 2-3,. and *never* more than 4700 for a 3-4 (at which pints you would be hitting 120 mph anyway), as the stock transmission is not going to like that - frankly, it's never a good idea to do full-throttle upshifts into Overdrive (4th gear), unless you have a complete performance-built transmission - the Overdrive band simply won't take it ling term, and you just don't have practical need for 120 MPH full-throttle 3-4 upshifts anyway, not on the street, and you'll never hit that in the 1/4 mile without a built motor and a blower or turbo with high boost (and I mean 600+ HP, figure 650 at the crank at that weight) and/or a lot of nitrous....
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi.
All the advice on proper shift point settings is already there for the taking - all you gotta do is search...
Cheers
Bubba
All the advice on proper shift point settings is already there for the taking - all you gotta do is search...
Cheers
Bubba
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Originally Posted by 05supercrew
These are 2 different tuners, My truck is stock exept for the tuner. Are those shift points with a cai and exhaust? The reason I ask is I know Troyer pushes the Af1 obviously for better performance. Every truck is different. Im not racing my truck either I just got a tuner for better throttle response and a better passing gear, 95% of the time I have my 2 kids in the truck so getting the most hp isnt a concern of mine. Im pretty sure the best shift point can only be determined for each truck on a dyno with its current mods.
Actually, no.
Those settings were determined by years of testing & experience - they are platform specific, regardless of most (but not all) bolt-on mods, or plain stock.
Settings indicated give best performance while staying well within the safety envelope of the drivetrain. Certainly if you never choose to explore the limits of that envelope, any setting - including the stock ones,the canned ones, or the ones you selected, will suffice. No worries.
The type of tuning device is irrelevant, unless of course that device cannot access or alter the settings in question
It's my understanding that TP applies those settings to pretty much all of his tunes destined for mildly modded or stock trucks, unless drivetrain specifics dictate otherwise, or the customer specifically requests changes...
That was the case for my Y2K truck, and I expect it to remain so for my new one...
Oh, and one final thing... this somewhat conflicts with your statement above:
Originally Posted by 05supercrew
<sic>speed limiter<sic> It stays at 99 mph but you can change it to what ever you want. I uped mine to 130 mph. Very easy to do.
Cheers
Bubba
Last edited by MGDfan; Sep 8, 2006 at 10:49 AM.
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi.
Actually, no.
Those settings were determined by years of testing & experience - they are platform specific, regardless of most (but not all) bolt-on mods, or plain stock.
Settings indicated give best performance while staying well within the safety envelope of the drivetrain. Certainly if you never choose to explore the limits of that envelope, any setting - including the stock ones,the canned ones, or the ones you selected, will suffice. No worries.
The type of tuning device is irrelevant, unless of course that device cannot access or alter the settings in question
It's my understanding that TP applies those settings to pretty much all of his tunes destined for mildly modded or stock trucks, unless drivetrain specifics dictate otherwise, or the customer specifically requests changes...
That was the case for my Y2K truck, and I expect it to remain so for my new one...
Oh, and one final thing... this somewhat conflicts with your statement above:
Cheers
Bubba
Actually, no.
Those settings were determined by years of testing & experience - they are platform specific, regardless of most (but not all) bolt-on mods, or plain stock.
Settings indicated give best performance while staying well within the safety envelope of the drivetrain. Certainly if you never choose to explore the limits of that envelope, any setting - including the stock ones,the canned ones, or the ones you selected, will suffice. No worries.
The type of tuning device is irrelevant, unless of course that device cannot access or alter the settings in question
It's my understanding that TP applies those settings to pretty much all of his tunes destined for mildly modded or stock trucks, unless drivetrain specifics dictate otherwise, or the customer specifically requests changes...
That was the case for my Y2K truck, and I expect it to remain so for my new one...
Oh, and one final thing... this somewhat conflicts with your statement above:
Cheers
Bubba
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Originally Posted by Dmoe
Got an email from edge LOL.
Now hows this for somelogic ei: customer service
Bought unit middle of aug and edge is now telling me they will NOT be updating untill middle of sept LOL hwat a joke this outfit is.
Try this on go buy anything from a a pair of boots to a new truck and be told it either wont work or you just cant use it for a month maybe more
freekin morons
Now hows this for somelogic ei: customer service
Bought unit middle of aug and edge is now telling me they will NOT be updating untill middle of sept LOL hwat a joke this outfit is.
Try this on go buy anything from a a pair of boots to a new truck and be told it either wont work or you just cant use it for a month maybe more
freekin morons
Last edited by Clayton74; Sep 8, 2006 at 11:49 AM.
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basic question
OK, I appreciate the info. I'll play around with it tomorrow.
Question: What role does the rev limit play in all this if the truck shifts before you reach the rev limit. When will you ever hit the rev limit? Only when you have the shifter set a gear (not in drive position)??
Question: What role does the rev limit play in all this if the truck shifts before you reach the rev limit. When will you ever hit the rev limit? Only when you have the shifter set a gear (not in drive position)??
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From: Burleson/Athens/Brownsboro, TX
Originally Posted by yates00
OK, I appreciate the info. I'll play around with it tomorrow.
Question: What role does the rev limit play in all this if the truck shifts before you reach the rev limit. When will you ever hit the rev limit? Only when you have the shifter set a gear (not in drive position)??
Question: What role does the rev limit play in all this if the truck shifts before you reach the rev limit. When will you ever hit the rev limit? Only when you have the shifter set a gear (not in drive position)??
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