I have purchased a SC 1714 Programmer, I came across it from a guy who was switching to either the edge, or Xcal2. I have to say compared to stock prog. the SC makes a slight difference with the 87 Octane Prog. BUT ONCE I installed the 91+ HighPerformance Tune into the truck.... WOW! Lot more of a difference from just around town and seat of the pant's driving. Time's at the local track confirmed that for me last week.
I was curious as to why the Manufacture's dont make these trucks a little hotter off the assembly line? Seem's to me I'd want every once of HP/TrQ I could get inorder to help sales. I figure it's for government issues, and to increase fuel Milage.

I was also wanting to know what the drawbacks may be from running a tuned prog? What exactly do they change in order to get the X-tra HP? and does it sacrafice reliability compared to stock tune? It seem's like the motor run's a little hotter with the HP-Tune, and you can kind of smell it just ever so slightly every now and then....... Should I swap out the Stock Thermostat from a 195 to a 180/185? Would that possibly help?

Thanks
Tom
04 Screw
4.6
50Series SI/SO 3" Flowmaster

 

The factory calibration is a compromise at best, of many factors (economy, performance, emissions, drivability, (lack of drive line clunk)

A factory program has to work in hot weather, high altitude, and poor fuel grade (ie 85 octane)

Once you set the vehicle up for good gas, you can make more power.

Ryan

 

IMO there’s no drawbacks using the 1714 Superchips "MAX" Micro Tuner but I don’t think you should change the thermostat.

Here’s some useful info about setting up the 2-3 shift point

The Micro Tuner unlocks maximum horsepower and torque *all* the time, at any throttle position & at any rpm. This is the only programmer on the market that tunes the engine for more power on part-throttle as well as on full-throttle, and that is CARB & EPA 50-state emissions approved. The 1714 Micro Tuner requires no gimmicks like abnormally low temperature thermostats, etc

 

Thanks for all the information!! Only other question I can think is with the ShiftPoint 1-2/2-3/3-4.... What exactly does that control? When I tuned the truck with all of the preset SuperChip Tune when shifting from 1st into 2nd, and 2nd into 3rd the truck would shift so hard and firm that the belt would actually slip, almost sounded like it was catching 2nd gear rubber!! I went back into the program and adjusted the Shift PSI accordingly so that it wouldnt allow the belt to slip, Im just curious as to what the ShftPnt's are and the purpose the serve?

Thanks!
Tom

It has been EXTREMELY HOT AND HUMID here in Memphis as I am sure like most every where else. Humidity may be a big factor in the belt slipping as well??

 

Hi Tom,

Factory tuning is indeed compromised for many things on *every* vehicle - whether it's a Corvette, a Cobra, or one of these trucks - but especially in trucks & SUV's.

Now in terms of making more power, it is a myth that you need to run higher octane fuel to get better power or improve driveability, etc. In fact, we actually make *far* more power on 87 octane in these late-model F-150's than that 1714 unit and the units of virtually every other tuning company when they run on their *premium* gas tuning, with our Troyer Performance custom tuning -and we make even still more power on higher octane fuel, of course. The 1714 does not gain much on 87 octane, unfortunately, but it does make a nice difference on premium fuel - it makes maybe half as much power gain as we get on premium gas, for example, on average. But then here at Troyer Performance we specialize in these vehicles, where nobody else truly does, so that is to be expected.

The bottom line is the 1714 will certainly deliver better performance than stock, and I'm sure you will enjoy it.

Just FYI - It is not true that you need separate or different tuning for hot weather versus cold weather, or for high altitude (up to about 5000-6000 ft at least) versus sea level, etc., as the PCM has the ability to compensate for all of that on it's own - and we keep that intact in our Troyer Performance custom tuning. About the only exception you will see to that is in *extremely* high elevations, say, 7000+ elevations, where vehicles will come from the factory with a high-altitude specific calibration on them - in the F-150, that is primarily something you see prior to the 2004 model year, for the most part.

By the way - just because the 1714 has adjustments does NOT mean you should be in there playing with them, especially cranking them way up up - don't do that. In fact, leave it alone is generally your best bet, as the shift points, firmness levels, etc., have all already been optimized very nicely in that unit. the one exception is that it's a nice driveability improvement to up the 2-3 upshift point by either 2 "notches" or 2 mph, depending on the type of display in the specific unit and how those units of measurement are displayed - that helps them get back up into Overdrive after a load event has caused a downshift - otherwise, I advise leaving them alone in the 1714 and the 1715 and similar units, generally speaking. You do NOT want to crank the engine rpm shift pints above about 5400 rpm on any kind of routine basis, as the stock torque converter will not take that for long periods - so never run the shift points above 5400 rpm on an all-out performance tune, and not above 5200 rpm max on a towing tune, as a general guideline.

You need to replace that crappy stock factory serpentine belt as well - put a Goodyear Gatorback on there to cure that belt squealing, which is happening due to a combination of more power and higher rpm shifts as well as (and mostly) by the firmer, quicker shifts at heavy throttle - hence why you hear that sound primarily at heavy throttle and higher-rpm shifts.

That info should give you some help to better enjoy your 1714 unit - have fun!

 

You mention messing with the paramaters on the 1714...... when I pluged the device in and followed the onscreen instructions. I chose the 91+ High Performance tune..... followed the directions by entering in my 3.55 gear, and my 30.00 tires...... I did not mess with the rest of them.... as they came up I just pressed "Y" to accept.... I did notice that every thing said "SuperChips" for exp. Shift Pressure Stock......8....10....12....14...up to 20....then after 20 it showed "SuperChips" I figured "SC" being the recomended tune. So first tune was "SC" all the way across the board... Excellent increase but shifting was harder than I wanted under WOT, so I went back into it and dropped the pressure from "SC" down to about 10psi I think... maybe 12.... but no more...... That gave me a good clean/crisp shift into 2nd, and think I set the 2-3psi to about 10psi for a nice firm shift into 3rd. I guess my question is when the display shows... "SuperChips" instead of an alt. number.... is that the Highest you can go, or is that the suggested pre-set tune that they recommend for opt. performance and drivability?

Thanks....

Wish I had some paper work on this thing.... only thing the guy had was the book for any codes I may need if the ChkEngine light ever came on..... tried to tell him that Ford's arent equiped with ChkEngine lights..... those were only Standard on Chevy's and Dodge....lol

 

here ya go Racing2Fast

1714 users guide