Dyno scheduled for Sat.
Dyno scheduled for Sat.
Well, I figured since I can't get my laptop to work, i'm going to go ahead and get the truck on the dyno. I am going to get it done this saturday. Now, my question is, do most dynos have the software needed to get the information for datalogging? Since the only thing that doesn't work on my laptop is the screen, should I download the sct program, and bring it along anyways? I remember reading in the instructions how to do it on the dyno, but I don't remember it saying whether the program is needed or not.
Would putting my stock wheel/tires on yield different results?
Mike, please let me know if there is anything specific I need to know before getting this done. Thanks for your help and everyone elses.
Would putting my stock wheel/tires on yield different results?
Mike, please let me know if there is anything specific I need to know before getting this done. Thanks for your help and everyone elses.
You will need a laptop or computer of some sort to run live link. Unless the shop your going to is willing to loan you the use of a computer. The computer they have for the dyno will be runing the dyno software and cant run live link at the same time. You could datalog with just your Xcal2 but you would have to download the data after each pull. for instructions on hwo to do this: http://www.sctflash.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3456 You need to use what ever wheels and tires you listed in the Troyer work sheets for the results to be valid.
good luck
good luck
Last edited by 05SilverFX4; Jan 4, 2006 at 11:17 AM.
Thanks guys.
So, I need the live link no matter what?
I called TP, and they told me to get the truck on a dyno, since I couldn't use my laptop. I was told that is what they use to do before datalogging was available through the XCal2.
So, I need the live link no matter what?
I called TP, and they told me to get the truck on a dyno, since I couldn't use my laptop. I was told that is what they use to do before datalogging was available through the XCal2.
Hi ORM,
Yes, just as is posited out in our documentation, you need LiveLink regardless of whether you do on-board datalogging using the XCal 2, or whether you use a laptop inside the cabin connected to the OBD-II port via using the XCal 2 in-line - either way, you need LiveLink, that is what allows you to select precisely *which* parameters you need to datalog.
Just getting A/F ratios is nothing, that won't help by itself - that is only 1 of about 13-14 parameters that is required, at a minimum, to properly datalog.
All you need to do is to read your datalogging instructions and follow them, basically.
And before you get to the dyno, get some experience working with LiveLink, you don't want to be trying to learn how to do that only when you get to the dyno, otherwise 30 minutes is going to turn into 5-6 hours of dyno time, trust me. Always spend enough time working with LiveLink& your PC to get very familiar with it, to see how it works, and practice connecting to your vehicle and datalogging long before you get to any dyno.
Just guessing, I'd say you have a ways to go before you will be ready to do any datalogging on a dyno, and that's far too much to try to learn between just now and Saturday, for most people.
Do not think the dyno shop is going to datalog for you, or that they are going to loan you a laptop, etc., as they don't - that would be *extremely* rare, generally speaking, you need your own hardware.
It all gets back to reading & following our docs, and the tutorials the manufacturer of the XCal 2 makes available on their web site, so you can get some practice with this. It's a lot easier than it sounds but trying to do it "cold turkey" will be close to a disaster, so I don't' recommend going to the dyno without having done any datalogging on your truck by yourself. You need to be datalogging everything as per our separate datalogging instructions that came in the same email with your CPW's while they run the vehicle on the dyno and get the A/F ratios.
One quick tip - on 2004 & up F-150's, you will see some of the parameters listed in LiveLink are labeled a bit differently - use "Pedal Position" for Throttle position %, and datalog both the upper and lower case "Open Loop Flag" parameters.
The bottom line is, you do not want to go into the dyno cold turkey, make sure you have practiced enough with LiveLink so that you know what you are doing before hitting the dyno, otherwise you are going to be there a long time and accumulate a good-sized bill.
If you have any questions about how to datalog, just give us a call, and have your laptop or PC handy and have LiveLink loaded up at the time, so we can go over that with you - trust me, this is all a lot easier than it sounds , you just have to get started actually doing the work, and long before you hit the dyno, OK?
Hang in there, this is actually a lot of run!
Yes, just as is posited out in our documentation, you need LiveLink regardless of whether you do on-board datalogging using the XCal 2, or whether you use a laptop inside the cabin connected to the OBD-II port via using the XCal 2 in-line - either way, you need LiveLink, that is what allows you to select precisely *which* parameters you need to datalog.
Just getting A/F ratios is nothing, that won't help by itself - that is only 1 of about 13-14 parameters that is required, at a minimum, to properly datalog.
All you need to do is to read your datalogging instructions and follow them, basically.
And before you get to the dyno, get some experience working with LiveLink, you don't want to be trying to learn how to do that only when you get to the dyno, otherwise 30 minutes is going to turn into 5-6 hours of dyno time, trust me. Always spend enough time working with LiveLink& your PC to get very familiar with it, to see how it works, and practice connecting to your vehicle and datalogging long before you get to any dyno.
Just guessing, I'd say you have a ways to go before you will be ready to do any datalogging on a dyno, and that's far too much to try to learn between just now and Saturday, for most people.
Do not think the dyno shop is going to datalog for you, or that they are going to loan you a laptop, etc., as they don't - that would be *extremely* rare, generally speaking, you need your own hardware.
It all gets back to reading & following our docs, and the tutorials the manufacturer of the XCal 2 makes available on their web site, so you can get some practice with this. It's a lot easier than it sounds but trying to do it "cold turkey" will be close to a disaster, so I don't' recommend going to the dyno without having done any datalogging on your truck by yourself. You need to be datalogging everything as per our separate datalogging instructions that came in the same email with your CPW's while they run the vehicle on the dyno and get the A/F ratios.
One quick tip - on 2004 & up F-150's, you will see some of the parameters listed in LiveLink are labeled a bit differently - use "Pedal Position" for Throttle position %, and datalog both the upper and lower case "Open Loop Flag" parameters.
The bottom line is, you do not want to go into the dyno cold turkey, make sure you have practiced enough with LiveLink so that you know what you are doing before hitting the dyno, otherwise you are going to be there a long time and accumulate a good-sized bill.
If you have any questions about how to datalog, just give us a call, and have your laptop or PC handy and have LiveLink loaded up at the time, so we can go over that with you - trust me, this is all a lot easier than it sounds , you just have to get started actually doing the work, and long before you hit the dyno, OK?
Hang in there, this is actually a lot of run!
Thanks for the post Mike.
Looks like I have a lot to learn between now and Saturday, lol. As soon as I get off work tomorrow, I'm going to install my pullies, and work with the livelink. I might try to work with the No-Load datalogging before I go. Thanks again Mike.
Looks like I have a lot to learn between now and Saturday, lol. As soon as I get off work tomorrow, I'm going to install my pullies, and work with the livelink. I might try to work with the No-Load datalogging before I go. Thanks again Mike.


