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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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If the AF1 you ordered is #16419 for a 4.6 I HOPE they ship on the 3rd! I ordered mine on 8/29 , It was backordered and I was told it would ship on 9/9. Every time I call I'm told the same thing "it will ship the end of next week". I truly hope it's worth the wait.
mine is for 5.4.. i was also told they where backordered till the 3rd. hoping to get it by next weekend.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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You guys should be seeing your AF1's pretty quickly now, as the next batch of 100 is already on it's way to us - in fact, we have also instructed AF1 to drop ship at least 20 of them (which went out Friday) for those who have been waiting the longest and who will get them quicker that way.

We're just about at the point where we should have the AF1 backlog cleared up & be able to keep them on the shelves now.

The demand for the AF1 for the 5.3 3V has been absolutely amazing - I've never seen another product with as much pent-up demand as the AF1 for the 5.4 3V F-150's. What really killed us was that so many 2004 owners waited for that kit and by the time it was released, the 2005's were already out too - so we had additional pent up demand from 2005 owners as well. So by the time they were released, there was a huge backlog for them, so it's taken some time to clear that out.

So just to keep you guys up to date on current status, I'd say your waits should be just about over now, and hopefully they'll be in stock on a more regular basis. A LOT of you will be getting them this week, as we have already received numerous FedEx tracking numbers faxed over to us from AF1 for drop shipments on Friday, with more coming in every day - as well as all the units that are on their way to us here.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Mike, will you be sending out those tracking numbers, or do we need to call to get them? I ordered my Xcal2 and AF1 around Aug 15th, so I'm kinda antsy waiting for it. I just got shipping confirmation on the Xcal2 today though
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Hi WheelerFreak,

First - you need to know something. Any inquires about shipments have to be made directly from the customer to the vendor, as the rules of F-150 Online strictly prohibit discussing those matters here on the message boards, so as not to clog F-150 Online bandwidth with matters that to not pertain to F-150 Online, but are instead private matters between vendor & customer. There is a reminder about this in bold red typeface at the top of every screen where you make a post. So please, any time you want to ask us anything about a shipment, contact us directly, OK? Thanks!

Briefly...........

Yes, you get a tracking number for anything that ships directly from us here - however, for the AF1's, you usually do not get a tracking number here lately, just because they are generally being drop-shipped simply because they are in such heavy demand that we literally cannot keep them in stock, despite the fact that we are by far AF1's largest WD and order every one they can build!!

SO for the past few months with the AF1's for the 5.4 3V's, most of them have been drop-ships thru FedEx, as that gets them to the customer about a week quicker than AF1 shipping them to us, and then us shipping them out to the customer - it's just what we have to do to get them out the quickest, and in that case no, you do not get a tracking number as it's being drop-shipped to get it to you as quickly as possible.

Now here in the near future, this should be clearing up for the AF1's, as we're just about getting thru the big backlog from 2004 & 2005 F-150 5.4 3V owners who waited to order an intake kit until the AF1 was released. Then we'll be able to have our normal large quantities in stock as we are accustomed to - I hate drop-shipping!!

Thanks for your understanding on all of this,
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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thanks for the update! great service by the way there at troyer! A+ from what ive seen.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Thanks rawzon, that's very kind of you to say & is greatly appreciated!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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got it installed.. drove about 5 minutes.. no light.. went to get something to eat...light came on.. now heres the wierd part, went to auto zone to get it reset, they couldnt connect to it? went to 2 different places neither could link up to my truck.. whats up with that?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Hi rawzon;

Congrats on your new intake!

Two things could be wazzup:

1. fuse for your OBDII port/cig lighter (same fuse) could be blown.
2. The Autozone guys were using a code scanner not compliant with the CAN pcm in your '04 F150 5.4 3V truck.

Hope this helps & good luck.

Cheers
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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im going to go with #2 as my lighter works fine.. did i read correctly in that the light will go off after a couple drive cycles?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Hi Rawzon,

This is really beyond the scope of this section (Chips & Programming), and it's also against the rules for us to give our customers Tech Support here - so I really can't provide Tech Support here to you on this, but if you'll use the SEARCH feature, you will quickly find a number of detailed references to this and have all the info you could possibly want.

I'll give you some brief info for now, and then please feel free to give us a call so I can go over all of this with you, OK?

First - whether or not you get a dash light when using any aftermarket intake on any 5.4 3V F-150 really depends on it's model year - the 2004's are the trucks that have this issue, not the 2005 or newer trucks, and this is simply because Ford has a tighter lean/rich code reporting threshold in the 2004's - it's far tighter than the PCM's actual compensation capability (so you can actually have a lean code reported and not be lean at all), and Ford changed this in 2005 - they only changed it by 2.8%, so it's a tiny amount, but that's all that's needed to not get that code with a properly installed AF1 or Airaid intake kit.

Now of course, this is assuming a perfect installation with everything properly aligned & tightened and no tiny air leaks. We have seen a number of people who were just dead certain that they had their installation right in fact did not, and had very small air leaks that cause unmetered air to enter the engine and thus trigger a lean code - you need to double check each and every part of that kit's installation.

Now in general, when a truck exhibits a code, the best thing to do (after double-checking the installation) is to simply clear the code with a code scanner - DO NOT DISCONNECT THE BATTERY, as that will also wipe out all adaptive strategy adjustments, so never do that - simply clear the code, and allow adaptive strategy to continue making it's adjustments, and that will go away on it's own as the PCM adapts. You may need to clear the code several times, but it will go away as the PCM adapts.

Another important factor that we have seen, not in a lot of cases, but in some, is where the MAF sensor (Mass Airflow) is either not fully seated and this has a tiny air leak under certain conditions, or becomes contaminated with dust - or simply fails. Marc Carpenter's 2004 F-150 had that happen at our last Dyno Day - it took us a while to diagnose everything else on the truck, as we were datalogging everything - but it turned out that his MAF sensor was failing, and would not deliver more than 3.3 volts to the PCM, thus causing an actual lean condition due to a hardware failure - it did that with the stock intake and also with the AF1.

When we do our custom tuning to any 5.4 3V F-150, we make certain changes based on certain types of intake kits - for example, there are only 2 intake kits we approve of for the 2004 & up 5.4 3V F-150, and they are the AF! and the Airaid units - with either one, we make certain changes (primarily just opening up the lean/rich code reporting threshold so that the 2004's have the same parameters as the 2005 & later trucks) so that this does not occur.

Last - It's really only the 2004 trucks that show this problem - if you get a lean code on a 2005 or newer 5.4 3V F-150 after installing the AF1, it's generally an installation problem, as they have a wider lean/rich code reporting threshold than the 2004's & thus generally do not exhibit this problem without an air leak - and it only takes a *tiny* leak.

If you'd like to go over this in more detail, just give us a call & we'll be happy to go over all of this with you.

Good luck!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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well, i just checked the connections again, they are all snug, took the sensor out and it was clean, re-adjusted where the filter was on the tube, i had it at the end because i read on here a few times that people had luck with that, i now have it on as far as it will go. the only thing i havent done is getting a scanner to reset the code... and i drove everywhere today trying to find one... NO ONE had them to rent or buy.. they looked at me like i was nuts when i said a regular obd2 doesnt work and that it had to have C.A.N. so im to the point of either ordering one.. or paying a shop 80 bucks to reset it.. which if it takes more then one reset, im better off buying a scanner.


edit: i just ordered one after checking every retailer around me.. should have it sometime next week.. i ended up buying a Innova 3110 CANOBD2, figured it would be worth it for my truck, my gfriends car, and anyone i work with because most of them have 2004 and newer. im sure this will take care of my problem.. these places like autozone need to get with it on these things


oh btw i am a "lucky" 2004 screw owner
 

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Hi Rawzon,

Just a thought here - because there are so many people here, I don't know off the top of my head if you already have one, or have one on order with us, etc., but just so you'll know, the XCalibrator 2 is also a CAN-compatible code scanner with complete diagnostic code reading & clearing capability - so if you have our custom tuning in the XCalibrator 2 (or have it on order), then you can use that to clear your codes, & thus wouldn't need to buy an additional code scanner just for that purpose.

You're absolutely right, the 2004 & up new body style F-150, as well as the 2005 & up Mustang, 6.0 Powerstroke diesels, etc. are "CAN" (Controller Area Network) vehicles, and so to read & clear codes on those vehicles, the code scanner must be CAN-compliant. One thing to know about that as well is that because CAN is not actually required until January 1 2007, various automakers implementations of CAN (Toyota, Ford, and numerous others) are not necessarily fully CAN-compliant in all cases - just like in some 1994 & 1995 vehicles, they weren't' fully OBD-II complaint because OBD-II wasn't actually required until the 2006 model year. For example, back when the 2004 F-150 first came out in the Fall of 2003, there were some CAN code scanners that could not read 2004 F-150 codes. By now most of them can of course, but this was a bit of an issue back in the Fall of 2003 when the 2004 F-150 was first released. This is just some background FYI info for you, so that if you do not have and/or are not going to order the XCalibrator 2 from us so you'll have our custom tuning, you can check before actually purchasing a code scanner to make sure that it will read the Ford F-150 CAN codes. Like I said, by now this really shouldn't be an issue, but it's a good idea to ask, just in case.

Good luck!
 
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