This is a pic of my AF1; had it since early May





This pic is the alternative variation *Both are equally good*

 

The purpose of the NEW tube design was simple;y our request for them to re-route it to get it off the upper radiator hose - everyone else's intake kit for this truck puts it right over that hose, and at speeds above about 35 MPH it does not matter power-wise - but at those lower speeds, we feel it does matter, so we had them make that change.

Interestingly, even with the pipe right over the upper radiator hose, we still achieved a 5-9 degree REDUCTION in IAT's compared to the stock factory intake - and with the new design, it was worth another 1-2 degrees, so really no difference to speak OK - we just like the second design a bit better, being the ****-perfectionists we are, since we did the R&D on that Air Force One kit.

Now on the dyno, there is NO difference in power gains, so either one works beautifully.

Hope that clears up that question.

 

Mike,

I've been in contact with Anita and some folks over at Airforce One concerning my complaint of excessive noice in the 2000-3000 RPM range while performing highway passing manuevers and accelerating on inclines. I've heard reports from owner's who have had both tube designs that the new design significatly helps with this noise. What are the chances of getting the new tube design? Only reason I ask this here is because I can't get any email responses from Airforce One. Thanks.

 

Thanks Mike and JP. I will have too look and see what one I have. Too dark for pics tonight, as I got back in town later than I thought. It was my first highway trip with the AF1. I am more than pleased. I love the sound and passing power is even better. I thought it was awesome with just a 1714, but this AF1 gives it some juice exactly where it needs it most.
Cruising you don't know its there. (Well.... actually...I know its there because I can't wait to have to pass the next car in front of me! )

 

It looks like the new tube according to JPs pics, but Mike said the new one doesn't go over the upper rad hose. Mine is over the rad hose, but JP's is the older one and his is not over the hose.
Doesn't really matter, because I love it anyway!

 

I too was a little confused by this comment:

"The purpose of the NEW tube design was simplely our request for them to re-route it to get it off the upper radiator hose."

I guess what we have been calling the "new" tube is actually the "old" tube that was changed at the request of Mike after R&D.

 

*New Tube* *Old Tube* it doesn’t matter. Mike did R&D on both tube designs and the gains (hp & torque) were the same for both, and the hp & torque numbers surpass those of all the competitors. That’s why I waited for the AF1 and didn’t pull the trigger early; I wanted the best with the most; the cream of the crop

 

So does it matter if we dont have any problems with the old design???

 

It appears to me that the new tube has a much smaller degree bend much further at the end, where as the older tube is not quite 90 degrees but close bringing it over the radiator hose.
I do agree the the new filter is different, more conical. If I order one today I assume I would be getting the new tube and the new filter head? is that correct?
One of my main concerns on this subject is getting a new filter. Is the AF-1 a cleanable filter like the K&N or do we need to order replacements.

 

The confusion is which tube is "new". From what Mike said the "new" tube was redesigned at there request. After R&D he requested for them to re-route it to get it off the upper radiator hose. My thoughts are that Airforce One is using the "old" tube as a replacement for the "new" tube for those customers who are having problems with CEL's. What do you perceive as the benefit of getting the "new" filter. More and more I'm wishing I would ahve purchased the Airaid.

 

In what stages did you install your troyer stage one componets, how long was the duration between installs?
I just ordered stage 1 from the phone conversation seem's I may get exshaust and intake before the tuner. I was wondering how it did with just part of the package installed.
By the way Troyer's custumer relations have been great so far, they responded with in 12 hours of my internet order and I faxed in my paperwork within 24 hours.

 

Here is a repost of Mikes response earlier in this thread, I hope it answers your question.

The purpose of the NEW tube design was simple;y our request for them to re-route it to get it off the upper radiator hose - everyone else's intake kit for this truck puts it right over that hose, and at speeds above about 35 MPH it does not matter power-wise - but at those lower speeds, we feel it does matter, so we had them make that change.

Interestingly, even with the pipe right over the upper radiator hose, we still achieved a 5-9 degree REDUCTION in IAT's compared to the stock factory intake - and with the new design, it was worth another 1-2 degrees, so really no difference to speak OK - we just like the second design a bit better, being the ****-perfectionists we are, since we did the R&D on that Air Force One kit.

Now on the dyno, there is NO difference in power gains, so either one works beautifully.

Hope that clears up that question.

I don't think CELs are a factor here but maybe Mkie can confirm that for you tomorrow!
Peace,
Ted

 

Man that thing looks good, I cant wait to get mine!

 

Okie - to answer your question that's in there somewhere - it's washable.

TP also sells the 'blue' oil if you want to retain the original colour.

You can also use the K&N kit to clean/re-oil, but it's red.

My filter is a conical 'powerstack', and red.

New - old, whatever - they still look and work great. No worries.

Cheers
Vic

 

I just ordered the X-Cal 2 to improve my towing performance on my 2004 5.4 Screw. I am also considering the AF1 for the same reason. The one thing that has me on the fence on the purchase is the potential maintenance associated with the exposed filter. I ride dirt bikes which requires me to travel on many unimproved roads. I know the dust can cause problems with the stock air filter. If I go the AF1 route, will I double the problems because filter is more exposed? Am I going to be cleaning the filter after every trip? I would be interested to here from other AF1 users that travel on dusty roads.