All I could say is wow!! Even though my speedometer is off cause I had Mike set it for 35 inch tires which on putting on tomorrow, this truck is like night and day.

When you first start it up the idle feels alot smoother. I took it around the block for a spin and the power gain is noticable. Nomore throttle lag and the shifting is a 100% improvment over stock, and this is all with the 87 octane tune. I cant wait to try the 93 octane tunes.

For anyone even considering the Xcal2 and programming by Mike Troyer, stop waiting and get one. You wont regret it. This is the way the truck should have come from the factory.

Now its time to do some Hemi and Titan hunting

 

Wait until you try the 93 octane tune. It only gets better!!

Kevin

 

I have GOT to stop reading this particular forum. I'm not ready to get that Xcal2 yet....

 

Mine's in the mail! Just in time to combine the X2, CAI, and JBA Headers. I'm pretty sure I'll notice a HUGE difference.

 

Come on!! You know you want to! It will be some of the best money you've spent. No pressure.

Kevin

 

haha! I was a little skeptical at first but after installing it all I could say is "damn"!!

It just came in this afternoon and I just put on about 100 miles on the truck playing around with it. I just hope its enough to compansate for the 35s I'm putting on tomorrow along with the ranch lift. I know that I'll probably end up regearing anyways.

 

Hi Triton2,

Glad to hear you're enjoying our tuning!

One thing to be prepared for - once you slap on those taller tires (and a lift kit, too) *after* having already installed our tuning, it's probably going to feel like you just lost a considerable amount of power - you don't actually, it's just that those taller tires kill torque multiplication, and the engine is turning fewer rpms all the time, at any speed in any gear - so it's lower down in the power curve. That's why with anything taller than 33" tires, we strongly recommend regearing to help save the automatic transmission, as well as get the MPG back up and restore normal driveability, etc.

There are a lot of people running 35's who do not regear, they just use our custom tuning and they are very happy with that, as can be seen in many posts here. That is a choice every vehicle owner has to make - for many, our custom tuning is enough to make them happy and they end up not regearing - though ideally, we recommend using 4.30's to 4.56's with 35" tires, and my choice would be the 4.56's. That way the engine can once again turn enough rpms for a given speed & gear to be back up in a better area of it's power curve & restore torque multiplication - and with 4.56's & 35's, it will actually turn just a few a few more rpms than it did stock and feel soooo much better - as these trucks are geared too tall for my tastes in stock trim.

Yes, it's darned expensive on 4x4's - but that's just part of the price you pay to "do it right" when modifying a vehicle. Slapping a lift kit & 35's on is a *big* change to a powertrain's ability to move a vehicle - so you may find our tuning is enough, or you may very well decide to do the gears anyway.

Good luck with that, hope it works out well for you & thanks for your post!

 

does the xcal void the warranty? I just got an 05 and put on some 325/60/18s on which are 33 inch tires and I need to get some power back, which I didnt loose much, but still want some more power to begin with. Also around here we have 90 octane instead of 87 or even 91. what power curve would that be on? And do you have to undo the program when pulling a trailer. I pull 2 snowmobiles. I should probably call you with these questions instead. I just might do that.

 

Installing the Xcal2 will no more void your warranty than putting on the aftermarket tires will.

This has been discussed in this forum within the last week. Read some more threads or do a search within this forum for "warranty".

 

It has been discussed and there still is no absolute answer to that question. Your dealer is the biggest question mark in the whole scenario. They can cover it or argue that the extra 20 or so HP is what caused the engine/tranny/transfer case/axle prioblems. You might be able to fight that and win, but it could be a long and drawn out process. Everyone quotes the M/M act, but dealers have successfully argued in the past that something as simple as a cold air intake voids portions of a vehicles warrenty?!?!?!?!?!? Despite all that uncertainty, I just ordered an Xcal2 and AF1 We'll see how it goes, hopefully I'll not have any issues come up where I have to take the truck to the dealer.

 

I have yet to regear mine with 35s, I wanted to try the Xcal first and getting the shift points and speedo back were more important before installing gears. Im happy with it but I will eventally regear once I scrape up 750bucks it costs to buy the parts.

 

Hello Rucraz2 & others,

The fact is, people love to espouse *opinions* with regard to mods & warranty, but *no* dealership we have ever seen (and we've been doing this longer than anyone else in computer-controlled vehicles) has ever tried pulling some "add 20 Hp and your warranty is voided" nonsense to one of these vehicles. That is myth, not fact.

You have to know your rights under the law - not what the Internet at large thinks! And the way to find that out is to go to www.sema.org and read up. These are the people you can largely thank for the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (which does in fact have very serious "teeth" in this issue) and so many other things that protect us vehicle owners and our rights.

The amount of over-engineering in these vehicles is very significant, as Roush found out in their testing of their supercharger kit for these trucks - they found that there was ZERO reduction in service life of either the engine or the transmission when adding 140 HP to the 5.4 3V F-150's with their 6 PSI positive displacement supercharger kit - just to give you an example - so they went ahead and supplied their own replacement powertrain warranty to protect their customers from the few Ford dealerships who would attempt to play such shenanigans. We've sold a lot of them, and NOT ONCE has there been any such failure with a 140 HP gain. And that's adding 140 HP - a far cry from any measly 20 Hp gain.

Speaking of which - For example, just in the past week alone there have been 6 different people asking in 4 different threads this exact same topic - so spend a little time actually reading these threads and using the SEARCH feature before posting the same extremely common types of questions that virtually everyone asks when they come here - you'll find that works much better, and cuts down wasting a lot of time & F-150 Online bandwidth on matter that have been covered to death already - just FYI so you'll know.

The bottom line is, nobody has had their warranty voided from our Troyer Performance custom tuning loaded into the XCalibrator 2 - and if you want to study up on just what your actual legal rights are with regard to doing modifications, then drop by www.sema.org and learn what they *really* are - not what the Internet at large *thinks* they might be - or even what we say, for that matter!

The *truth* is, under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, you can do any modification you want to your vehicle, and as long as what you do to your vehicle does not cause actual damage - then your warranty remains intact, by law - period. Those are the facts, and they are not subject to debate.

Any dealership that tries to not abide by that needs to be told that you *know* your actual rights under the law and will pursue them to the fullest via all means necessary if they attempt to pull such shenanigans - and doing that in a friendly conversation, in NICE tones, with the service manager in any type of dispute usually resolves things pretty quickly. And in the extremely rare case where it doesn't - then having an attorney make that phone call is a LOT cheaper and far more effective than cowering to any dealership's hired help trying to force you into paying for a new engine or transmission - trust me. We have been involved in a lot of these types of cases over other types of parts over the years, and in almost every case, the dealership immediately capitulated once properly and professionally confronted with the facts. And remember, they can say *anything* in a hypothetical question - so going into a dealership and asking them up front if you can do this or that modification and still keep your warranty will virtually always result in an answer of "no, you can't do that, we will void your warranty." The sad truth is, in that type of hypothetical scenario, they can say anything and them saying that crap is not against the law - but get into an actual situation where there is a mechanical issue and the truck is really in the shop and things get a lot different, very quickly, 99% of the time when they are properly confronted with the actual fact, and the law.

Anyone who would try pulling that nonsense on you is someone who has no ethics or scruples, and will stick a knife in your back in ah heartbeat - the best way to handle them is to sue them (and it costs very little to file suite in small claims court, in which case 99.99% of the time they fold).The few who don't, hire a lawyer, that a lot cheaper than an $8000 engine or a $3000 automatic transmission, etc., and once they know you have a good attorney, their story tends to change very quickly.

The bottom line is *never* let some dealership steal your legal rights from you - NEVER do that, as if you do, you are just begging them to do exactly that.

Choose *smart* and safe mods and you won't have a problem when dealing with an honest dealership - that's really the moral of the story, so to speak.

Good luck!