I'm glad I found this forum. I was wondering what was wrong with my 2005 150 5.4, 3.73 ratio supercrew. I had my buddy drive it and he said his taurus had more get up and go then the truck. My other buddy has a 2004 150 5.4 supercrew, and his chirps the tires from a dead stop with no mods. I was wanting to get a xcal2. Would the xcal take care of the throttle response issue. And would using the xcal 2 void the warranty. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Ski

 

Take a look at this thread: https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=205097

Also use the search function and look for threads on that subject. I think you will be very happy with the X-Cal2. I have the X-Cal with 87 octane max performance, 91 octance max performance, and 91 octane towing tunes. I noticed much better throttle response almost right away. The shifting is much better also. I do not have any other mods on my truck YET but seriously thinking about the AF-1 intake.

If you have questions still you can always call Troyer Performance. To me it was a no-brainer after reading so much about the X-Cal and Troyer tunes. It was well worth the money. I hope this helps.

Kevin

 

HI Ski,

Plain and simple - call us.

If you want to do just one modification at a time, start off with our Troyer Performance custom tuning, as it is by far the single best bang for the buck, and will really help that truck's performance - as you can see from the other responses.

Now a really nice upgrade package would be to do our Stage 1 kit, as that will allow that truck to breathe far better in addition to the engine & power train having a much more acceptable calibration that is far more pleasing performance-wise.

Either way, we've got your covered - all the 5.4 3V F-150 owners say the same thing, they hate the stock throttle response & performance of the line - that's a thing of the past with our tuning, trust me.

 

Cool I have an appointment monday to get my computer reflashed, cause of the throttle response. I'll be giving u all a call after that. Is there any information I need to get to u guys after I get my truck reflashed. Also does using the xcal 2 void any warranty on the truck.

 

[QUOTE=ski21]....Cool I have an appointment monday to get my computer reflashed, cause of the throttle response. I'll be giving u all a call after that.....QUOTE]

MAKE SURE that you get the new computer code and/or software part number. DO NOT assume that the dealer will provide you with a sticker.
I had a hell of a time getting my code after a reflash.
Mike will FOR SURE need this info. After you ensure you have the right code then call Troyer...they'll guide you thru what you need to do from there....

 

Thanks. Now I got a dumb question. What does WOT mean, i see it all through the forum.

 

SKI:

WOT is short for wide open throttle - WFO in my neighbohood Wide F------ Open.

 

 

Thanks guys, I thought that is what it meant but wanted to be sure. I'll make sure I get the computer code on monday when the dealer reflasher my comp. I can't wait to get the xcal 2. Everything I read on it seems like it works great.

 

Hi ski21,

Personally, I do NOT recommend having the dealer do that reflash at all - it really doesn't help to any significant degree (it's nothing compared to what or tuning will do), and only complicates matters, because they are NOT going to give you the new "computer code."

They reference that code in a completely different way, and in many cases do NOT provide that information at all, even though they are supposed to. They are actually supposed to place a sticker under the hood in a prominent location and write in by hand the complete Part# or the hex code# of the reflash - now if they do post that information correctly, then we can take it and do a cross-reference to determine just what code they actually loaded that PCM with. But if they do NOT provide that info, then we are going to have to do additional work that takes more time & a little bit more cost in some cases. So I really don't recommend doing any dealer reflash that is claimed to "help throttle response" on the 2004 & newer F-150's, as it won't do anywhere near what our tuning does.

By law, you have the right to make changes to your vehicle and as long as those changes do not DAMAGE the vehicle, your warranty remains intact - but don't expect your service manager to tell you "sure, go right ahead and install performance tuning and your warranty will be fine," as it's not in their interest to say that.

Remember, they have no way of knowing who does what, or who is and is not qualified to actually do safe tuning on these vehicles - so they usually aren't going to, in effect, "indemnify" you by telling you that you can use any tuning you want and your warranty will be OK.

If you want to learn about your rights under the law, go to the www.sema.org web site and spend some time reading in detail the materials there. The bottom line is, you have the legal right to do modifications to your vehicle and have your warranty remain in tact as long as the modifications you make do NOT actually cause damage to the vehicle.

Personally, I would not do the dealer reflash and that way you can just keep things much simpler - personally, if I intended to have my vehicle tuned I wouldn't bother with that particular reflash from the dealer - but it's your vehicle, of course!

 

Well since I don't have the money right now for the xcal2, still saving some cash up. I decided to do the dealer reflash. It seemed to help but not what i expected. When I told the service man that i needed the part number or hex code he looked at me like "what are u talking about." He gave me the tsb number 05 10 02. I'm not sure if this is what u need mike for the xcal2 information. I hope it is cause i looked under my hood and i didnt see any hand written stickers. Let me know if this is the information u need. If it isn't i guess i'll have to pay extra like u said.

 

That's why Mike suggested you NOT reflash....it really dosen't help and the dealer hates to give the PCM flash code. Without knowing this code you can't get the Xcal 2 custom tuning.

 

Hi Ski,

No, that code does NOT help - all that is, is a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) number for that repair - and that tells us nothing.

We cna still determine your new code, but it will take a bit more expense and some additional steps, as we;ll have to send out a unit ti read your vehicle's PCM, and then analyze it to see just what code it is.

So the bottom line is, whenever you're ready, we can get that taken care of for you - and the jerks at your dealership should be flogged for what they did to you, as they are REQUIRED to place that sticker under the hood with that info, and that info IS right in front of their faces on the Ford WDS system when they actually do the reflash - so that is something the mechanic himself does it during the reflash - numbskull's.

Don't worry, whenever you can afford it we'll get this taken care of for you, my friend!

 

K I just got off the phone with the mechanic, he gave me a code number not sure if this is what u need. Its 5L3A-12A650-CLB. I hope that's it. Let me know I'm hoping to actually sell some stuff and purchase an excal2 in the next week or two.

 

I just got the okay from the wife to get the xcal2. Now i just need to wait for my expense check to come and i'm ordering it. I hope that's the right code.