I have a 98 4.6 5 sp. I am looking to get a chip but am wondering if its worth it. It seems like everyone that gets a chip has an auto. With an auto you can adjust alot with the tranny, shift points, firmness, etc. Will it be worth it just for the throttle response? Oh yeah, and will a chip get rid of my speed limiter at 96 mph?

 

I forgot to mention its the nascar edition too. Basically all that entails for those that do not know is dual exhuast, 3.73, some cosmetic stuff, lowered 1 inch, and a "chip". Supposedly they just programmed the stock chip a little different to compensate for the different backpressure. The question is, will this affect me with a tuner or SC chip?

 

The chip will give you more hp and torque regardless of what transmission you have. I have a 5 speed and a chip. It makes all the difference in the world. Talk to Mike Troyer about what you want to accomplish and he will help you get it done properly.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

 

I emailed Troyer performance and got an email back from anita. She really didnt say too much. Mike could you give me some input as to what your recommend. I have searche alot of threads and read alot but your direct input would mean alot. From what i have read, you are THE MAN when it comes to computer performance. Thanks~mike

 

It's worth it! If you look at what mods cost, you will get the most gain per $ with tuning.

You will eventually get a response from Mike, so be patient. You could also give them a call directly, that's the best way to get the most information.

 

Hi mjeselskis,

This is one of "the basics," and as such can easily be looked up via the SEARCH feature here on F-150 Online - the icon to access it is in the upper right portion of your screen here. This has been covered literally countless times before, so is very easy to retrieve and read any of the thousands of previous posts on power gains in automatics versus manuals. Just so you'll know for future reference, any time you want to know something here, try using the SEARCH feature first - chances are anything you could possibly want to know on the topic of this section of the boards (Computer Chips) has already been asked & answered hundreds, if not literally thousands of times before. Using SEARCH will get you a much quicker answer, and reduce the amount of repetitive posts & time spent typing responses, etc. - just FYI.

This has changed over the years - years ago it used to be that just about any type of American-made vehicle had a lower stock power rating if it had an automatic transmission, compared to the exact same vehicle with a manual tranny. This was back in the days when each American auto brand made it's own engines - Chevy's were sold only with Chevrolet engines, Pontiacs had their own motors, Oldsmobiles the same, Buick had their own motors, Cadillacs had their own engines, etc., etc. Back then, you even got a different *camshaft* if you had an automatic transmission - one that gave more low rpm torque and a bit less high-rpm peak horsepower. It was that way for a lot of years, but that all stopped long ago - by the late 70's, that was pretty much a thing of the past.

Now to actually answer your question................

It doesn't matter what transmission you have in your late-model F-150 - the autos & the 5-speeds all get the same power ratings stock, and get the same power gains from our tuning. So you don't have to worry about that, rest assured that the engine power gains are the same regardless of what transmission you have. The only difference is that because it's NOT an automatic, there aren't any shifts for us to firm up or raise, that's all - you still have torque management in the manuals, and you still get the same amount of raw power gain in the engine from our tuning no matter what tranny you have. So as JMC said, don't give it a thought - you're going to get the same power gain automatic models get from our tuning, & you'll love what our custom tuning will do for that 5-speed truck.

Have fun,

 

Thanks mike, I have read all of the product descriptions on your website about the tuners and i guess my only question would be, would there be any disadvantage to getting the 9100 over the 6600. I see the 9100 costs a little more but i am not worried about that. Can i still get the same as the 6600 plust more? What are the pros/cons of each one?

 

You're very welcome!

Just FYI - For pros & cons, or anything that is detailed in nature, you'll want to either give us a call at our number listed below, or you can always use the SEARCH feature here to retrieve any of the many previous posts where we've gone over all of that many times before. We can't get into details via typing, as it takes hundreds of times longer to type than it does to talk - and there just aren't enough hours in the day, you know how that goes - this is just FYI so you'll know for future reference, & thanks in advance for your understanding on that - it's greatly appreciated!

Briefly............

In terms of the performance gains, power levels, etc., it doesn't matter which one you use, the results are the same - in terms of the results, it's the *tuning* that counts - not the hardware used to deliver the tuning.

The 6600 gives the best bang-for-the-buck, as you get 4 custom tunes compared to 3 for the flash device. But using the flash device gives you a quick & easy 10 minute plug & play installation, by simply plugging it into the OBD-II port and pushing a couple of buttons - whereas the chip gets you one additional program and takes about 30-45 minutes for a first time installer. Some people prefer the convenience of the flash-style device and it's simple plug & play 10 minute installation without getting their hands dirty - while others prefer the bang-for-the-buck aspects of the 6600.

Operationally, I guess about the only time I would say you really *need* to use a chip over a flash device is if you're spraying - nitrous oxide use requires a significantly different tune, and a tune that you would not use any time you're *not* spraying the nitrous. That's the one type of mod (nitrous) where you really need the ability to change programs very quickly, at the turn of a ****. Using the flash device, it will take you 5-7 minutes to change programs, whereas with the 6600 you turn it's **** and the program change happens immediately. So for those using nitrous, or any time being able to change programs instantly is a priority, then the 6600 would be used.

I hope that info helps, & please feel free to give us a call to go over any details, etc., we'll be happy to help!