Thinking about Supertuner
Thinking about Supertuner
I have a R/C F150 Fx4 that is about a month old with 950 miles on it. I am seriously looking into purchasing the Supertuner for my truck. I have noticed a lot of people are very pleased with the effect it has on their trucks. I just have a few questions.
Will my warranty be affected by using the Supertuner on my truck?
Are people still having any issues with the software updates like I noticed a while back?
Will I need to reload the stock program everytime I take it to the dealer for anything? How important is that?
Thanks.
Will my warranty be affected by using the Supertuner on my truck?
Are people still having any issues with the software updates like I noticed a while back?
Will I need to reload the stock program everytime I take it to the dealer for anything? How important is that?
Thanks.
Hi rth,
I would suggest that you call Troyer Performance during their business hours. They can go over every option available as far as the 1714 super tuner and their custom tunes. They are very friendly and knowledgeable concerning tuning issues and whats on the market.
Personally,I have the 1714 and am very happy with it. you can get their phone number from almost any message thread in the computer chip section.
By the way, welcome to f150 online, and congrats on your new truck!!! Kevin
I would suggest that you call Troyer Performance during their business hours. They can go over every option available as far as the 1714 super tuner and their custom tunes. They are very friendly and knowledgeable concerning tuning issues and whats on the market.
Personally,I have the 1714 and am very happy with it. you can get their phone number from almost any message thread in the computer chip section.
By the way, welcome to f150 online, and congrats on your new truck!!! Kevin
Hi rth,
Welcome aboard - one thing you'll want to know about right away is the SEARCH feature - all of your questions are very basic questions that have been asked & answered many hundreds of times before - so they can be very quickly looked up in any of hundreds of previous posts already here. Any time you want to know something, you'll want to get in the habit of using the SEARCH feature first, as virtually anything you could want to know can easily be looked up. Get used to working with it's excellent search filters and you can instantly access virtually any information you could possibly want in this sections topic, it's all been covered many times before. That's much quicker and cuts down on the number of repetitive posts & time spent typing responses to them on this high-volume and vastly popular web site - just FYI so you'll know.
Let's get on to your answers.............
1.) No, it doesn't void your warranty - you have the right by law to make modifications to your vehicle and have the warranty remain intact, as long as those changes do not actually *damage* the vehicle. Now if a modification you make actually causes damage (say, like nitrous oxide use blowing up the motor, just for an example), then that would be your responsibility - not the automakers, as is only fair. It's really a basic set of fair play rules, governed primarily by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Drop by the www.sema.org web site to study this in detail.
2.) The initial software updates that were necessary when the 1714 was first released was *months* ago, and you'll notice you don't see any of those posts now, and haven't for some time. That was due simply to the vast number of PCM reflashes (updates) dealership had to do to the new 3-valve 5.4 F-150's as a first year vehicle - our own 2004 SuperCrew has had 2 or 3 separate updates. Typical first year stuff for a brand new vehicle - the F-150 was completely redesigned for 2004, with a new engine, a different automatic transmission, a completely different control system and an on-board network (CAN, or Controller Area Network), etc. - so there are always little glitches to be worked out as a new vehicle gets distributed by the hundreds of thousands, little things that didn't turn up prior to mass production The only time that would be needed now is in the rare case of another revision being released after that vehicle's model year production to address a particular problem - and even so, the tuner will store that if used properly, so it can easily be updated. But what you're talking about is a non-issue, that was months ago, when the 1714 was initially released, that just happened to be in the middle of Ford releasing a barrage of different updates to fix things like the temperature display not being correct in the cabin on the higher-line models, and other such small "issues" typical of first-year new vehicles.
3.) If you have to have your vehicle serviced at your Ford dealership's service department, yes, you want to return back to stock tuning - and you should do that whether the truck is under warranty or not, as it may need a PCM update, for example - and if it does and you leave the tuning in there, then you lose it. It would be overwritten, and the 1714 would not let you load it up again as it thinks you're trying to use it's tuning on more than 1 vehicle at a time, as the same software revision is no longer in the PCM - and that is true of *any* flash device, it's very basic copy protection to prevent fraud. So yes, of course you should return to stock when it goes in for service at a dealership, and doubly so in the 2004's because it's a first-year vehicle and thus potentially subject to reflash. This is one of many reasons why that capability is built in to go back to stock at any time, and then reinstall any of it's 3 programs again at any time. That's nothing to be concerned about - anyone can spare 5 minutes to do that, and this can be done as many times as need over the life of the vehicle.
If you'd like to go over any of this in more detail, feel free to give us a call at our number below, we'll be happy to help.
Best of luck with your new truck, & we hope you'll hang out here with us in your spare time!
Welcome aboard - one thing you'll want to know about right away is the SEARCH feature - all of your questions are very basic questions that have been asked & answered many hundreds of times before - so they can be very quickly looked up in any of hundreds of previous posts already here. Any time you want to know something, you'll want to get in the habit of using the SEARCH feature first, as virtually anything you could want to know can easily be looked up. Get used to working with it's excellent search filters and you can instantly access virtually any information you could possibly want in this sections topic, it's all been covered many times before. That's much quicker and cuts down on the number of repetitive posts & time spent typing responses to them on this high-volume and vastly popular web site - just FYI so you'll know.

Let's get on to your answers.............
1.) No, it doesn't void your warranty - you have the right by law to make modifications to your vehicle and have the warranty remain intact, as long as those changes do not actually *damage* the vehicle. Now if a modification you make actually causes damage (say, like nitrous oxide use blowing up the motor, just for an example), then that would be your responsibility - not the automakers, as is only fair. It's really a basic set of fair play rules, governed primarily by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Drop by the www.sema.org web site to study this in detail.
2.) The initial software updates that were necessary when the 1714 was first released was *months* ago, and you'll notice you don't see any of those posts now, and haven't for some time. That was due simply to the vast number of PCM reflashes (updates) dealership had to do to the new 3-valve 5.4 F-150's as a first year vehicle - our own 2004 SuperCrew has had 2 or 3 separate updates. Typical first year stuff for a brand new vehicle - the F-150 was completely redesigned for 2004, with a new engine, a different automatic transmission, a completely different control system and an on-board network (CAN, or Controller Area Network), etc. - so there are always little glitches to be worked out as a new vehicle gets distributed by the hundreds of thousands, little things that didn't turn up prior to mass production The only time that would be needed now is in the rare case of another revision being released after that vehicle's model year production to address a particular problem - and even so, the tuner will store that if used properly, so it can easily be updated. But what you're talking about is a non-issue, that was months ago, when the 1714 was initially released, that just happened to be in the middle of Ford releasing a barrage of different updates to fix things like the temperature display not being correct in the cabin on the higher-line models, and other such small "issues" typical of first-year new vehicles.
3.) If you have to have your vehicle serviced at your Ford dealership's service department, yes, you want to return back to stock tuning - and you should do that whether the truck is under warranty or not, as it may need a PCM update, for example - and if it does and you leave the tuning in there, then you lose it. It would be overwritten, and the 1714 would not let you load it up again as it thinks you're trying to use it's tuning on more than 1 vehicle at a time, as the same software revision is no longer in the PCM - and that is true of *any* flash device, it's very basic copy protection to prevent fraud. So yes, of course you should return to stock when it goes in for service at a dealership, and doubly so in the 2004's because it's a first-year vehicle and thus potentially subject to reflash. This is one of many reasons why that capability is built in to go back to stock at any time, and then reinstall any of it's 3 programs again at any time. That's nothing to be concerned about - anyone can spare 5 minutes to do that, and this can be done as many times as need over the life of the vehicle.
If you'd like to go over any of this in more detail, feel free to give us a call at our number below, we'll be happy to help.
Best of luck with your new truck, & we hope you'll hang out here with us in your spare time!
Last edited by Superchips_Distributor; Oct 31, 2004 at 03:07 PM.


