DTC Codes.....
Hi Rich,
Thanks very much for your reply & the post changes - they're both greatly appreciated.
I'll just respond here in this one thread rather than in both........
I was thinking about what would be helpful for you any time you get an SES light and retrieve any kind of DTC's, to help you interpret them............
The Micro Tuner comes with a basic code chart that simply lists the basic "title" of what each code is - it's not going to teach anyone anything about diagnosing a vehicle, it's not supposed to - it's simply a code scanner and a chart of DTC titles. Usually the only people who get into detail on the DTC's are the actual technician/mechanic repairing the vehicle, but there are some tools (software) available commercially for those who want to know more about them. What I would suggest is to pick up a good software tool, so you'll have more info. Drop by the Alldata web site (www.alldata.com) and take a look at their services - they have a yearly subscription that is very cheap, and will allow you to look up any info about your vehicle, from service schedules to DTC charts, TSB's & recalls, etc.
That would at least give you some more basic info that would be very helpful to *any* vehicle owner, especially for the typical vehicle owner who has just shelled out $40K for a brand new F-150 and is worried about an SES light showing up on the dash, etc. Now of course you're not going to learn to actually diagnose that vehicle just by looking at DTC's - that requires a LOT of knowledge and highly specialized training, especially on a CAN vehicle like the 2004 & up F-150 - that is something that is done primarily by properly trained mechanics for the most part, as todays vehicles are far to complex for the "average" vehicle owner to be able to diagnose like a skilled technician/mechanic does. But having access to the Alldata subscription would give you a lot more info that you would find very helpful.
There are all kinds of different resources, CD's, etc. Another important thing to have is the service manual for your vehicle - you can obtain that too, thru Alldata - or look in your vehicle's owners manual as they always list how to obtain the service manual for each vehicle in the owners manual. Personally I feel every vehicle owner should buy a copy of their vehicle's service manual.
Just a thought in terms of trying to help you get a bit more familiar with interpreting DTC's, etc.................
The main thing here is to remember that any time you have a DTC, we just can't diagnose that for you - once in while we may have a suggestion for someone, if I have the time - but we don't run a vehicle repair facility, we're a *performance* company. Thus our time has to be spent on what we actually do - which is to modify these vehicles for more performance, whether it's for the typical daily driver/tow vehicle or actual drag racing, etc.
One last thought - while there's no way we can diagnose your vehicle, you can get ignition-related codes as a result of doing things like washing under the hood of your vehicle - it's very common for people to use pressure-spray washers underhood, and usually most people aren't very careful about how they use pressure-washers. The ignition system should not get wet, and those coil packs reside down in wells that naturally trap moisture anyway - spraying under the hood can get the coil packs wet and short them out - sometimes they'll be OK once they dry, and sometimes they have to be replaced. But spraying underhood is a "biggie" in terms of having ignition-related problems in these COP (coil on plug) vehicles. Once the coil pack gets wet, that water seeps down into the well and the only way it can get out is by being boiled off (actually, the water is slowly turned into steam) from engine heat, or thru evaporating over time - unless the coil packs are pulled and the wells cleaned out, coil packs dried out, etc. Water getting down into the plug wells penetrates up into the coil pack from the bottom up, via the actual connection to the spark plug, especially when it's turned into steam from engine heat. So we generally do not recommend using a pressure sprayer underhood, whether it's a home model or like at the local quarter wash, etc. If you do that, at a bare minimum make sure to cover in a waterproof manner everything electrical - electrical connections, the ignition coil packs, etc.
Now that may or may not have anything at all to do with what actually caused your particular ignition-related codes, but I'm mentioning this simply because that's the single most common occurrence, so take it for what it may or may not be worth.
I hope that helps a bit, & thanks much for your reply - glad we're back on track, Rich!
Thanks very much for your reply & the post changes - they're both greatly appreciated.

I'll just respond here in this one thread rather than in both........
I was thinking about what would be helpful for you any time you get an SES light and retrieve any kind of DTC's, to help you interpret them............
The Micro Tuner comes with a basic code chart that simply lists the basic "title" of what each code is - it's not going to teach anyone anything about diagnosing a vehicle, it's not supposed to - it's simply a code scanner and a chart of DTC titles. Usually the only people who get into detail on the DTC's are the actual technician/mechanic repairing the vehicle, but there are some tools (software) available commercially for those who want to know more about them. What I would suggest is to pick up a good software tool, so you'll have more info. Drop by the Alldata web site (www.alldata.com) and take a look at their services - they have a yearly subscription that is very cheap, and will allow you to look up any info about your vehicle, from service schedules to DTC charts, TSB's & recalls, etc.
That would at least give you some more basic info that would be very helpful to *any* vehicle owner, especially for the typical vehicle owner who has just shelled out $40K for a brand new F-150 and is worried about an SES light showing up on the dash, etc. Now of course you're not going to learn to actually diagnose that vehicle just by looking at DTC's - that requires a LOT of knowledge and highly specialized training, especially on a CAN vehicle like the 2004 & up F-150 - that is something that is done primarily by properly trained mechanics for the most part, as todays vehicles are far to complex for the "average" vehicle owner to be able to diagnose like a skilled technician/mechanic does. But having access to the Alldata subscription would give you a lot more info that you would find very helpful.
There are all kinds of different resources, CD's, etc. Another important thing to have is the service manual for your vehicle - you can obtain that too, thru Alldata - or look in your vehicle's owners manual as they always list how to obtain the service manual for each vehicle in the owners manual. Personally I feel every vehicle owner should buy a copy of their vehicle's service manual.
Just a thought in terms of trying to help you get a bit more familiar with interpreting DTC's, etc.................
The main thing here is to remember that any time you have a DTC, we just can't diagnose that for you - once in while we may have a suggestion for someone, if I have the time - but we don't run a vehicle repair facility, we're a *performance* company. Thus our time has to be spent on what we actually do - which is to modify these vehicles for more performance, whether it's for the typical daily driver/tow vehicle or actual drag racing, etc.
One last thought - while there's no way we can diagnose your vehicle, you can get ignition-related codes as a result of doing things like washing under the hood of your vehicle - it's very common for people to use pressure-spray washers underhood, and usually most people aren't very careful about how they use pressure-washers. The ignition system should not get wet, and those coil packs reside down in wells that naturally trap moisture anyway - spraying under the hood can get the coil packs wet and short them out - sometimes they'll be OK once they dry, and sometimes they have to be replaced. But spraying underhood is a "biggie" in terms of having ignition-related problems in these COP (coil on plug) vehicles. Once the coil pack gets wet, that water seeps down into the well and the only way it can get out is by being boiled off (actually, the water is slowly turned into steam) from engine heat, or thru evaporating over time - unless the coil packs are pulled and the wells cleaned out, coil packs dried out, etc. Water getting down into the plug wells penetrates up into the coil pack from the bottom up, via the actual connection to the spark plug, especially when it's turned into steam from engine heat. So we generally do not recommend using a pressure sprayer underhood, whether it's a home model or like at the local quarter wash, etc. If you do that, at a bare minimum make sure to cover in a waterproof manner everything electrical - electrical connections, the ignition coil packs, etc.
Now that may or may not have anything at all to do with what actually caused your particular ignition-related codes, but I'm mentioning this simply because that's the single most common occurrence, so take it for what it may or may not be worth.

I hope that helps a bit, & thanks much for your reply - glad we're back on track, Rich!
Thank you!!
Thanks Mike, I'm glad everything is behind us. It's unfortanant it happeded, but they say things happen for a reason. Thanks for excepting my apology.
Thank you for the info. I will definantly look into the website. The light has gone off, but I will take it anyway.... as a precaution. I'm wondering if I should take it back to stock prior to taking it in?
Thank you again.....
Please ask your wife to put me back on the AirForce One intake list.
Thank you... thank you... thank you!!
Rich
Thank you for the info. I will definantly look into the website. The light has gone off, but I will take it anyway.... as a precaution. I'm wondering if I should take it back to stock prior to taking it in?
Thank you again.....
Please ask your wife to put me back on the AirForce One intake list.
Thank you... thank you... thank you!!
Rich
Hi Rich,
We never took you off the list.
When going into a Ford dealership service department, yes, we do recommend returning back to stock before taking it in - they may need to flash the PCM with an update, or if they needed to do troubleshooting of a powertrain problem, etc., you always want to have the stock tuning loaded up. Then reinstall the tuning when you get the vehicle back, and you can do that as many times as need be over the life of the vehicle.
Good luck!
We never took you off the list.

When going into a Ford dealership service department, yes, we do recommend returning back to stock before taking it in - they may need to flash the PCM with an update, or if they needed to do troubleshooting of a powertrain problem, etc., you always want to have the stock tuning loaded up. Then reinstall the tuning when you get the vehicle back, and you can do that as many times as need be over the life of the vehicle.
Good luck!


