ECU Bracket and Superchip
#1
As a matter of fact, I did get my chip from Performance Products. I talked with you last Thursday morning, ordered it on the phone, and got it Friday morning. You are right, the the Performance Products instructions are a lot more detailed than the Superchips instructions. But, if there was something in the Performance Products instructions about the lip on the bracket, I missed it (which is possible). I read through the instructions while having lunch with my wife (and may have been distracted) and then refered back to them during installation. I'll look back through and see. I just wanted to post this to help anyone else from damaging their chip, or worse, their ECU.
#2
Geez Mike, you were a little condensending there weren't you?
DanDothanAL, I know with the DiabloSport chip, you wouldn't have to fuss with the bracket at all. The DiabloSport computer chip fits entirely inside the computer which allows you to reinstall the computer back into its factory location without having to make any modifications. The computer fits just like it originally did.
DanDothanAL, I know with the DiabloSport chip, you wouldn't have to fuss with the bracket at all. The DiabloSport computer chip fits entirely inside the computer which allows you to reinstall the computer back into its factory location without having to make any modifications. The computer fits just like it originally did.
#3
I went back and looked and you are right Mike, it's in there. I'll have to agree with fastsvtss too, you were a bit condescending. I was a little shocked after you were so helpful on the phone. I wasn't trying to slam anyone, I was just trying to help other readers. It's just that I'm 45 and the CRS (can't remember stuff) disease is setting in already.
P.S. The Performance instructions were great, even if I didn't remember everything. And, I like the way the truck is running. I'll have to do more driving to see about fuel mileage.
[This message has been edited by DanDothanAL (edited 05-15-2001).]
P.S. The Performance instructions were great, even if I didn't remember everything. And, I like the way the truck is running. I'll have to do more driving to see about fuel mileage.
[This message has been edited by DanDothanAL (edited 05-15-2001).]
#4
ECU Bracket and Superchip
I had one slight problem installing my Superchip. The Superchip kept the ECU from fitting prpperly on the ECU bracket. The bracket has a "lip" that helps secure the ECU in place. To see what I am talking about, go to http://www.f150world.com/superchip5.asp for a picture (similar to the one in my 2001 Supercrew). Click on one of the pictures of the installed ECU/Superchip. The Superchip made contact with the "lip" and kept the ECU from fitting against the bracket. I took the bracket out and used a Dremel tool to make a cutout in the "lip" to accomodate the Superchip. Mike Troyer, it might be helpful to cover this in the installation instructions. The only other problem I had was that the threads were stripped on one of the bracket bolts. So, I had to go to the hardware store to get a 6mm x 20mm bolt and a 6mm-1.0 tap to chase the threads in the mounting hole. Other that that, the instructions were good and installation was pretty easy.
#5
Hi Dan,
Sounds like you did not purchase your Superchip from us here at Performance Products. Because if you had, you would have seen that covered in detail in our rather extensive documentation.
We have in fact gone over that very issue in great detail for a long time now in the additional documentation that we write, and that is included with every Superchip that we here at Performance Products ship to *our* customers.
The manufacturers instructions do not go into enough detail for our tastes as Ford truck specialists, and that is why we write far more documentation than the manufacturer does, and in much greater detail than the manufacturer goes into, and that information is included with every Superchip we ship for these vehicles.
However, the only way to get that information is to purchase the Superchip from us, as that information is protected by copyright. Our documentation is written to take a first-time installer thru this with *no* surprises, so had that Superchip come from us, you would have known about that issue as soon as you read our docs.
That "lip", or "tab" is on a number of those mounting brackets, and the only way to take care of it correctly is to remove the bracket from the vehicle and trim, bend, or cut that lip, or tab, so that it cannot possily interfere with the Superchip. This is a very basic issue that we've covered for a long time................
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
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Sounds like you did not purchase your Superchip from us here at Performance Products. Because if you had, you would have seen that covered in detail in our rather extensive documentation.
We have in fact gone over that very issue in great detail for a long time now in the additional documentation that we write, and that is included with every Superchip that we here at Performance Products ship to *our* customers.
The manufacturers instructions do not go into enough detail for our tastes as Ford truck specialists, and that is why we write far more documentation than the manufacturer does, and in much greater detail than the manufacturer goes into, and that information is included with every Superchip we ship for these vehicles.
However, the only way to get that information is to purchase the Superchip from us, as that information is protected by copyright. Our documentation is written to take a first-time installer thru this with *no* surprises, so had that Superchip come from us, you would have known about that issue as soon as you read our docs.
That "lip", or "tab" is on a number of those mounting brackets, and the only way to take care of it correctly is to remove the bracket from the vehicle and trim, bend, or cut that lip, or tab, so that it cannot possily interfere with the Superchip. This is a very basic issue that we've covered for a long time................
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
#6
I had one heckuva time with that bracket. There was no way, at least with my tools, that I could flatten the bracket lip while it was in the truck. Removal and replacement was difficult and required laying on the ol' back for nearly and hour messing around with the 8mm bolts. (The top bolt was the baddie -- 1/8th of a turn at at time while trying to keep the socket on the bolt head at that awkward angle.)
After the bracket was out, hammering the lip down flat was easy.
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2000 F150 Harley-Davidson: Superchip, K&N FIPK
Hard Tonneau, Hidden Hitch, 2-Meter Rig (KG0UK)
Motorcycles: '99 FLHRCI, '95 XLH, '65 305 Dream
After the bracket was out, hammering the lip down flat was easy.
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2000 F150 Harley-Davidson: Superchip, K&N FIPK
Hard Tonneau, Hidden Hitch, 2-Meter Rig (KG0UK)
Motorcycles: '99 FLHRCI, '95 XLH, '65 305 Dream
#7
The bracket lip was easily the worst part of my installation experience. Everything else was pretty straighforward.
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From factory:
2001 White 4x4 SuperCrew (Lariat), 5.4L, limited slip, skid plates, towing pkg, captains chairs, CD changer
Add-on's:
SuperChip; Black Westin Nerf Bars; Husky Mud Guards (F&R); Beige CatchAll's (F&R); Line-X bedliner; Eagle 1219-series 16x8 wheels w/ 285/75-16 BFG AT-KO rubber
Plans:
Intake; Exhaust; Shocks
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From factory:
2001 White 4x4 SuperCrew (Lariat), 5.4L, limited slip, skid plates, towing pkg, captains chairs, CD changer
Add-on's:
SuperChip; Black Westin Nerf Bars; Husky Mud Guards (F&R); Beige CatchAll's (F&R); Line-X bedliner; Eagle 1219-series 16x8 wheels w/ 285/75-16 BFG AT-KO rubber
Plans:
Intake; Exhaust; Shocks
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#8
I'm not following the discussion here. The clip mounting (at least on my '99) was about the easiest thing I did. I had more trouble taking out the battery for access to the ECU mounting bolt.
The instructions from Mike 'n Company were clear and concise...the pics at http://www.f150world.com/superchip5.asp were perfect.
...this coming from a guy who has a tough time boiling water...
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The instructions from Mike 'n Company were clear and concise...the pics at http://www.f150world.com/superchip5.asp were perfect.
...this coming from a guy who has a tough time boiling water...
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'99 Ford F-150 Lariat, 4WD, SCab, ORP, LS/3.73, Tow Pkg, 5.4L
* Superchip
* K&N FIPK GEN II
'99 Chrysler 300M, PHP, Sunroof, Premium Infinity Sound, 3.5L
* Borla Cat-Bak
* K&N Filtercharger
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#9
I used a 1/4" ratchet, a short extension, and a socket, 8mm I believe, to remove the bracket. That didn't take but a few minutes. But the bolt that some factory worker stripped added about an hour to the job. I went to Lowe's then Ace Hardware to find a 6mm tap to clean up the threads in the bolt hole.
#10
Hi Dan,
OK, let's go over a couple of points here, before everyone gets carried away over the comments from fastsvtss...............
1.) You have my apology, it was not at all my intention to sound "condescending", not in the least.
It was my intention to simply inform you that we *do* in fact go over that very thing you complained about, and named me personally as needing to do something about, when in fact we already had, *long* ago, and in detail, in our additional Performance Products documentation, as you found when you went back and read it carefully.
I assumed (uh-oh) that between the combination of you complaining about this, an issue that we *do* in fact document and have for a long time, that you obtained it elsewhere, and I simply meant to point out that it is an issue, and we do cover it in our additional documentation, where the manufacturer does not. Everyone uses "screen names" here on F-150 Online, instead of their real names, so we have no way of knowing who anyone is here, except for those who either stand out because of certain behaviours, or those who we've met at a Rally, or those who have been here a long time, etc., you get the idea. The bottom line is, for a number of reasons, I *assumed*, and we all know what assuming things gets us, that you couldn't have purchased it from us. Our customers usually will pick up the phone and call us if they run into a problem, and we're always happy to help in any way we can.
This is, as many of us know, the number 1 problem with most products of a mechanical or technical nature, people not reading the documentation carefully, or fully, before attempting installation/use.
So for what it's worth to you, you have my apology, if you actually feel you were insulted, that wasn't my intention. I don't think you would have felt that way had fastsvtss not chimed in, but be that as it may, that was not my intention, and I think you probably know that in your heart, since you mention that you've spoken with me over the phone.
I think the moral of the story is simply to read your documentation, or at the very least, simply ask us if you run into a snag or a problem, as our documentation instructs you to, to call us should you have a problem of some kind, as we *want* to help you. We want you to have a smooth installation with no surprises, and we're always open to any suggestions our customers have for improving our documentation.
I wish you well,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
OK, let's go over a couple of points here, before everyone gets carried away over the comments from fastsvtss...............
1.) You have my apology, it was not at all my intention to sound "condescending", not in the least.
It was my intention to simply inform you that we *do* in fact go over that very thing you complained about, and named me personally as needing to do something about, when in fact we already had, *long* ago, and in detail, in our additional Performance Products documentation, as you found when you went back and read it carefully.
I assumed (uh-oh) that between the combination of you complaining about this, an issue that we *do* in fact document and have for a long time, that you obtained it elsewhere, and I simply meant to point out that it is an issue, and we do cover it in our additional documentation, where the manufacturer does not. Everyone uses "screen names" here on F-150 Online, instead of their real names, so we have no way of knowing who anyone is here, except for those who either stand out because of certain behaviours, or those who we've met at a Rally, or those who have been here a long time, etc., you get the idea. The bottom line is, for a number of reasons, I *assumed*, and we all know what assuming things gets us, that you couldn't have purchased it from us. Our customers usually will pick up the phone and call us if they run into a problem, and we're always happy to help in any way we can.
This is, as many of us know, the number 1 problem with most products of a mechanical or technical nature, people not reading the documentation carefully, or fully, before attempting installation/use.
So for what it's worth to you, you have my apology, if you actually feel you were insulted, that wasn't my intention. I don't think you would have felt that way had fastsvtss not chimed in, but be that as it may, that was not my intention, and I think you probably know that in your heart, since you mention that you've spoken with me over the phone.
I think the moral of the story is simply to read your documentation, or at the very least, simply ask us if you run into a snag or a problem, as our documentation instructs you to, to call us should you have a problem of some kind, as we *want* to help you. We want you to have a smooth installation with no surprises, and we're always open to any suggestions our customers have for improving our documentation.
I wish you well,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
#11
No harm done. I wasn't trying to complain, but rather benefit others from my experience, since I have been helped by reading other posts on F150online. And let me correct the moral of the story. Never read any technical information on your F-150 while having lunch with your wife (I don't remember what she was talking about either).
I did have occasion (or made one) this morning to take full advantage of my Superchip. Another motorist kind of cut me off on a local 4-lane. Afterwards, we both had a turn onto a 2-lane (I was behind the other motorist at this point). I don't know what came over me. But as we were accelerating from the turn, I pulled out and punched it. The low pressure area behind my Supercrew nearly turned her Land Rover over. It looked like she was checking to make sure she wasn't in Reverse.
I did have occasion (or made one) this morning to take full advantage of my Superchip. Another motorist kind of cut me off on a local 4-lane. Afterwards, we both had a turn onto a 2-lane (I was behind the other motorist at this point). I don't know what came over me. But as we were accelerating from the turn, I pulled out and punched it. The low pressure area behind my Supercrew nearly turned her Land Rover over. It looked like she was checking to make sure she wasn't in Reverse.