Has anybody tried a JET chip
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From: Southbury, Ct. 06488
Has anybody tried a JET chip
Does anybody know how the JET chip compares to the superchip. I've got the JET chip and didn't notice anything with the power of the engine but I did notice the transmission shift points and firmness. Also can a JET chip be reburned for a supercharger.
1997 F-150, 4.6L, 4R70W trans with trans-go shift kit, 3.55LS, BFG All Terrains, custom cat back exhaust, custom intake mods, JET chip, K&N filters, duraliner bedliner, lund lunar visor, westin chrome side steps, vent visors, sliding rear window with vent visor, off road package, class III tow package, air dam without lights, carbon fiber dash trim, viper alarm/start system, six disc changer, 500watt memphis amp, two memphis 250 watt subs, and a seven o seven conversion package with custom leather seats, one of a kind paint job.
1997 F-150, 4.6L, 4R70W trans with trans-go shift kit, 3.55LS, BFG All Terrains, custom cat back exhaust, custom intake mods, JET chip, K&N filters, duraliner bedliner, lund lunar visor, westin chrome side steps, vent visors, sliding rear window with vent visor, off road package, class III tow package, air dam without lights, carbon fiber dash trim, viper alarm/start system, six disc changer, 500watt memphis amp, two memphis 250 watt subs, and a seven o seven conversion package with custom leather seats, one of a kind paint job.
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Jet into a superchip....that's kind of like turning a chevy into a ford and vice versa. it's not possible. atleast I don't think it is.
I have a Jet chip. I like it. There is definently more power. My truck no longer has the "sling shot" acceleration. transmission improvements, I can't note on that since there is something wrong with mine. I have also been trying reg gas w/ mine and haven't noticed any adverse effects.
compare to a superchip? Everyone here will tell you this: superchip is the only chip that produces the most horsepower and works at all rpm ranges. superchip is supposed to be the best.
but you won't know until you try it yourself. personally, I'm the only one here that refuses to buy a superchip.
I have a Jet chip. I like it. There is definently more power. My truck no longer has the "sling shot" acceleration. transmission improvements, I can't note on that since there is something wrong with mine. I have also been trying reg gas w/ mine and haven't noticed any adverse effects.
compare to a superchip? Everyone here will tell you this: superchip is the only chip that produces the most horsepower and works at all rpm ranges. superchip is supposed to be the best.
but you won't know until you try it yourself. personally, I'm the only one here that refuses to buy a superchip.
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From: Virginia
Hi Marc,
That's a common complaint with Jet, a lack of power gained. There are some people here who have tried both the JET and the Superchip on the same vehicle, and every one here who has used both on the same vehicle has always posted that they preferred the Superchip.
Jet (and Hypertech and most others) only make "generic" programs for each model year & engine of these F-150's (menaing only 1 program for each model year & engine size), and that type of programming cannot properly optimize your powertrain. The way we do it in the Superchip is to program it for the exact software revision in each individual vehicle's computer, as that is the only way to get a fully optimized program that is made specifically for *your* individual vehicle. These F-150's have anywhere from 80-150 and even more different computer codes (software revisions) each model year alone, and "generic" programs yield little in the way of actual power gains.
Jet, Hypertech, and most others only add power on WOT (wide-open throttle), so the only time you get what gains they produce is at full-throttle. The reason for that is the structure of the emissions laws, as during full-throttle operation there are no emissions standards that have to be met. Consequently, that is why most chipmakers only tune at WOT, so they don't have to go thru the expensive process of independantly testing & certifying for strict emissions compliance for each program like Superchips has to. This can be a bit misleading, as one of the common claims in this business is to claim that their program tunes "throughout the entire rpm range", trying to make you think that it works all the time. But the reality is that you can be at full-throttle at *any* rpm, so it's a meanlingless statement. The real key is that Jet & Hypertech are only tuning on full-throttle, versus the Superchip tuning at all throttle positions and thus adding power all the time, and it makes a difference in terms of everyday driveability and vehicle enjoyment, to say nothing of the larger power gains you'll get from the Superchip compared to the Jet unit.
All that having been said, there certainly are owners of the Jet chip that are happy, like ponysix8 is.
Can JET actually reprogram it properly for a supercharger? They might be able to, that I can't tell you, so you might want to call the manufacturer directly. I would make sure that if so, they tune it not just on full-throttle but at every throttle position if you decide to install a supercharger, as it will be very important with a blower to have it precisely tuned not only at all rpms, but at any throttle position.
If you'd like to go over any of this in detail, please feel free to give us a call.
Best of luck with your truck,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
That's a common complaint with Jet, a lack of power gained. There are some people here who have tried both the JET and the Superchip on the same vehicle, and every one here who has used both on the same vehicle has always posted that they preferred the Superchip.
Jet (and Hypertech and most others) only make "generic" programs for each model year & engine of these F-150's (menaing only 1 program for each model year & engine size), and that type of programming cannot properly optimize your powertrain. The way we do it in the Superchip is to program it for the exact software revision in each individual vehicle's computer, as that is the only way to get a fully optimized program that is made specifically for *your* individual vehicle. These F-150's have anywhere from 80-150 and even more different computer codes (software revisions) each model year alone, and "generic" programs yield little in the way of actual power gains.
Jet, Hypertech, and most others only add power on WOT (wide-open throttle), so the only time you get what gains they produce is at full-throttle. The reason for that is the structure of the emissions laws, as during full-throttle operation there are no emissions standards that have to be met. Consequently, that is why most chipmakers only tune at WOT, so they don't have to go thru the expensive process of independantly testing & certifying for strict emissions compliance for each program like Superchips has to. This can be a bit misleading, as one of the common claims in this business is to claim that their program tunes "throughout the entire rpm range", trying to make you think that it works all the time. But the reality is that you can be at full-throttle at *any* rpm, so it's a meanlingless statement. The real key is that Jet & Hypertech are only tuning on full-throttle, versus the Superchip tuning at all throttle positions and thus adding power all the time, and it makes a difference in terms of everyday driveability and vehicle enjoyment, to say nothing of the larger power gains you'll get from the Superchip compared to the Jet unit.
All that having been said, there certainly are owners of the Jet chip that are happy, like ponysix8 is.
Can JET actually reprogram it properly for a supercharger? They might be able to, that I can't tell you, so you might want to call the manufacturer directly. I would make sure that if so, they tune it not just on full-throttle but at every throttle position if you decide to install a supercharger, as it will be very important with a blower to have it precisely tuned not only at all rpms, but at any throttle position.
If you'd like to go over any of this in detail, please feel free to give us a call.
Best of luck with your truck,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
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From: Windsor,Ontario,Canada
To anybody out there looking for a JET Chip.
They are fantastic chips. The 97 model for the 4.6 W/ 5 speed will work on the 2000.
They work from idle to WOT. No need to call with your computer code just give your powertrain configuration and the chip works. So anybody out there with a Superchips please keep quiet untill I unload, er sell this chip!
Kindest regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks, MAC 8.8 Axle Girdle
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Custom air intake system with modified
air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips
They are fantastic chips. The 97 model for the 4.6 W/ 5 speed will work on the 2000.
They work from idle to WOT. No need to call with your computer code just give your powertrain configuration and the chip works. So anybody out there with a Superchips please keep quiet untill I unload, er sell this chip!
Kindest regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks, MAC 8.8 Axle Girdle
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Custom air intake system with modified
air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips
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Hello Mark,
Welcome to the board.
I have a very interesting story about the Jet Chip that I owned. If you do a search and use the key words "JET=JUNK" you can read all about it.
How long have you owned the chip? Can you return it?
Maybe JMC will buy it so he can have a matching pair. Because two is always better than one. LOL
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
Other Toy: 1964 Falcon, 300 H.P. 306,TopLoader 4 spd. 9"Detriot Locker rear end with 3.91's
Welcome to the board.
I have a very interesting story about the Jet Chip that I owned. If you do a search and use the key words "JET=JUNK" you can read all about it.
How long have you owned the chip? Can you return it?
Maybe JMC will buy it so he can have a matching pair. Because two is always better than one. LOL
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
Other Toy: 1964 Falcon, 300 H.P. 306,TopLoader 4 spd. 9"Detriot Locker rear end with 3.91's
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Hi Mark & JMC & jarrettruelz88,
All kidding aside, Mark is in a situation where you guys have been before, his first chip for this vehicle is a Jet unit, and he's trying to figure out what's wrong, why he's not getting power gains and the best way to go. People in those kinds of situations don't know if this means that all chips are the same and don't add power, or if it's really just the Jet chip that's the issue, so he's just trying to do his homework to determine what he should do next, and we're glad he dropped by, so he can get some perspective from others who have used both on the same vehicle.
It's one of those situations where you just don't know until you've tried it, and many times people have already purchased a Jet or Hypertech unit before finding this web site and learning what those who have "been there, done that" have to say about the various chips, so it's quite common.
Those that have used both a Jet or a Hypertech chip and then the Superhcip on the same vehicle, like both JMC and Jarrettruelz and others here have, already know what Mark is trying to determine, so it's easy for us to talk about turning them into paperweights, etc., but it's all in good fun, and is not meant to be critical of anyone's misfortune. We don't want Mark to get the wrong impression, nobody is teasing him or making fun of his misfortune, it's just that you guys have been in that very same situation before, so you already know the deal.
We hope everything works out for Mark.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
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All kidding aside, Mark is in a situation where you guys have been before, his first chip for this vehicle is a Jet unit, and he's trying to figure out what's wrong, why he's not getting power gains and the best way to go. People in those kinds of situations don't know if this means that all chips are the same and don't add power, or if it's really just the Jet chip that's the issue, so he's just trying to do his homework to determine what he should do next, and we're glad he dropped by, so he can get some perspective from others who have used both on the same vehicle.
It's one of those situations where you just don't know until you've tried it, and many times people have already purchased a Jet or Hypertech unit before finding this web site and learning what those who have "been there, done that" have to say about the various chips, so it's quite common.
Those that have used both a Jet or a Hypertech chip and then the Superhcip on the same vehicle, like both JMC and Jarrettruelz and others here have, already know what Mark is trying to determine, so it's easy for us to talk about turning them into paperweights, etc., but it's all in good fun, and is not meant to be critical of anyone's misfortune. We don't want Mark to get the wrong impression, nobody is teasing him or making fun of his misfortune, it's just that you guys have been in that very same situation before, so you already know the deal.
We hope everything works out for Mark.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
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Duh!
I tried 2 JET chips before I found this site. Thought I broke the first one & went back for more.
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superchip-Airraid-Perma-cool electric fan & controller
I tried 2 JET chips before I found this site. Thought I broke the first one & went back for more.
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Well,
All I got to say is "JET=JUNK" bought one for my f-1 and believe me junk!!!! No noticable difference in power at all and my shift points were still a little less expected than my hopes thought!!! As a matter of fact i ripped out the piece of
programmable junk last week and wrote JET a letter and demanded my money back! Haven't heard nothing yet, so Mr. Troyer if all goes well expect a phone call from me really soon!!! Like i said JET=JUNK!!!! please dont let someone make the mistake i did!!!
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* 2000 F-150 XLT, 5.4L BLACK ECAB, ORP 4X4,
* DYNOMAX PERFORMANCE EXHAUST
* JET PERFORMANCE MODULE
* K&N FILTERCHARGER
* EVERY OPTION, CLASS III HITCH, TINTED WINDOWS
* CLARION PRO AUDIO SOUND SYSTEM AM/FM/CD w/ 6-DISC CHANGER,
* "s12d" KICKER SOLOBARIC CUSTOM SUB BOX
* 354xi KICKER IMPULSE AMP
* 4X6 MB QUART SPEAKERS w ADD-ON TWEETERS
* CLARION EHQ5100 ELECTRONIC GRAPHIC EQ/CROSSOVER PROCESSOR MODULE
* GTS CARBON FIBER HEADLIGHT AND TAILLISHT COVERS
* GTS CARBON FIBER BUGSHIELD
**"VERY" SOON TO BE ADD-ONS:
* 4" PRO-COMP SUSPENSION LIFT
* 305/70/16 PRO COMP MUD TERRIANS
* 16X8 PROGESSIVE PRO 57 WHEELS
* JBA HEADERS
* AFTERMARKET THROTTLE BODY ????????
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^ DRIVE IT LIKE ^
^ YOU STOLE IT!!!!!!! ^
^ ^
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All I got to say is "JET=JUNK" bought one for my f-1 and believe me junk!!!! No noticable difference in power at all and my shift points were still a little less expected than my hopes thought!!! As a matter of fact i ripped out the piece of
programmable junk last week and wrote JET a letter and demanded my money back! Haven't heard nothing yet, so Mr. Troyer if all goes well expect a phone call from me really soon!!! Like i said JET=JUNK!!!! please dont let someone make the mistake i did!!!
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* 2000 F-150 XLT, 5.4L BLACK ECAB, ORP 4X4,
* DYNOMAX PERFORMANCE EXHAUST
* JET PERFORMANCE MODULE
* K&N FILTERCHARGER
* EVERY OPTION, CLASS III HITCH, TINTED WINDOWS
* CLARION PRO AUDIO SOUND SYSTEM AM/FM/CD w/ 6-DISC CHANGER,
* "s12d" KICKER SOLOBARIC CUSTOM SUB BOX
* 354xi KICKER IMPULSE AMP
* 4X6 MB QUART SPEAKERS w ADD-ON TWEETERS
* CLARION EHQ5100 ELECTRONIC GRAPHIC EQ/CROSSOVER PROCESSOR MODULE
* GTS CARBON FIBER HEADLIGHT AND TAILLISHT COVERS
* GTS CARBON FIBER BUGSHIELD
**"VERY" SOON TO BE ADD-ONS:
* 4" PRO-COMP SUSPENSION LIFT
* 305/70/16 PRO COMP MUD TERRIANS
* 16X8 PROGESSIVE PRO 57 WHEELS
* JBA HEADERS
* AFTERMARKET THROTTLE BODY ????????
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^ DRIVE IT LIKE ^
^ YOU STOLE IT!!!!!!! ^
^ ^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: Windsor,Ontario,Canada
Mark,
I didn't mean to make light of your situation, hell who am I kidding, but try and get your money back and get a Superchips. I got a Jet back in 97 because Superchips didn't have one for my PCM code. Thank God I knew Mike from another Board and he was able to finally fix my problem. Night and day, Jet to Superchips.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks, MAC 8.8 Axle Girdle
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Custom air intake system with modified
air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips
I didn't mean to make light of your situation, hell who am I kidding, but try and get your money back and get a Superchips. I got a Jet back in 97 because Superchips didn't have one for my PCM code. Thank God I knew Mike from another Board and he was able to finally fix my problem. Night and day, Jet to Superchips.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd 3.55LSD
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks, MAC 8.8 Axle Girdle
BFG 285/75 R16 MTs,
Borla Cat Back, Headman Headers,
Custom air intake system with modified
air box, Ported Throttle body,
Shortened MAF sensor tower,
K&N air filter,
Superchips
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From: Maine
Mark,
I certainly meant no distrepect to you.
I know how it feels to get less that you expected.
If you cant return the chip to Jet you can always sell it here in the classifieds section. I gotlucky and was able to sell mine in about 10 days.
Atleast in the future you will know what works and what to steer clear of.
Good luck
Pete
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
Other Toy: 1964 Falcon, 300 H.P. 306,TopLoader 4 spd. 9"Detriot Locker rear end with 3.91's
I certainly meant no distrepect to you.
I know how it feels to get less that you expected.
If you cant return the chip to Jet you can always sell it here in the classifieds section. I gotlucky and was able to sell mine in about 10 days.
Atleast in the future you will know what works and what to steer clear of.
Good luck
Pete
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
Other Toy: 1964 Falcon, 300 H.P. 306,TopLoader 4 spd. 9"Detriot Locker rear end with 3.91's
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Hi JMC,
Gosh, that brings back memories, that's right, you & I "met" each other years ago, over on CIS in their automotive and then their Trucks & 4X4's Forum.
It's been awhile now, hasn't it?
It would be great if you & Neal & Dean etc. could all come down and make the Norfolk Rally this year!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
Gosh, that brings back memories, that's right, you & I "met" each other years ago, over on CIS in their automotive and then their Trucks & 4X4's Forum.
It's been awhile now, hasn't it?
It would be great if you & Neal & Dean etc. could all come down and make the Norfolk Rally this year!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
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Hey Jarretruelz88,
You're guy won today (darn it), while my guy finished about 135th I think!
Congraulations!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
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(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
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You're guy won today (darn it), while my guy finished about 135th I think!
Congraulations!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
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Superchips_Distributor,
He sure did wun, and its about time a Ford gets to V Lane.
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
Other Toy: 1964 Falcon, 300 H.P. 306,TopLoader 4 spd. 9"Detriot Locker rear end with 3.91's
He sure did wun, and its about time a Ford gets to V Lane.
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
Other Toy: 1964 Falcon, 300 H.P. 306,TopLoader 4 spd. 9"Detriot Locker rear end with 3.91's
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Hi Pete,
You're right, and it's a long season, so our beloved Fords should have plenty of time to start posting wins, Top 5's & Top 10's, which I'm sure they will.
Good luck!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
You're right, and it's a long season, so our beloved Fords should have plenty of time to start posting wins, Top 5's & Top 10's, which I'm sure they will.
Good luck!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer