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Old Nov 30, 1999 | 08:41 PM
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Question Superchip & possible SecuriLock problem

Based on a discussion with Mike Troyer (thanks Mike), I sent my computer and superchip to Superchips,Inc because I couldn't get my truck to start after installing the superchip (with or without the chip). The computer, with the superchip installed in it, was returned to me today (great overnight service). I reinstalled the unit and the truck still won't start. I turns over O.K. ,same as before, but that's it. However, the SecuriLock indicator ("Theft") on the dash goes on and then flashes. The electronic odometer completely lights and then settles into a line of dashes. I was wondering if anyone else has had a problem with the SecuriLock and Superchip combination; I'd like to make sure that it has nothing to do with the Superchip because it looks like I'm going to have to have it towed to the dealer if it won't start with the keys that I have. Unless there are other suggestions.
I have a 1999 4wd 4.2l six XLT f-150 and have added nothing to it other then the attempt with the superchip.
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Old Dec 1, 1999 | 12:33 AM
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russb,this is xanman also a new member.Were you able to get your truck started yet? If so what was wrong? I to have a 99 4.2liter 4x4 and was interested in putting in a superchip so any help would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Old Dec 1, 1999 | 07:15 AM
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xanman,
I haven't been able to start the truck and have gotten no response to my question other then yours.
 
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Old Dec 1, 1999 | 08:50 AM
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I'd be wantin ta know too. I'm buyin a 2000 lariat thats comin with tha secura lock,antitheft system, and I wanta putta superchip init. Jus thinkin aboutit and itdont seem that tha superchip should cause this typa problem. But whatta I know?

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Old Dec 1, 1999 | 01:27 PM
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There isn't something stupid (like reprogramming a code) which has to be done after reconnecting the battery, is there? I'm refering to the securilock system.

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Old Dec 1, 1999 | 02:23 PM
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Hi Russ,

I called and left a message on your answering machine about why your truck won't start, either with or without the Superchip.

I think in your case what you're going to find is that you've bent a pin on the front wiring harness when you reattached it. Disconnect the wiring harness from the front of the computer, (this is the 10mm bolt that you need to loosen right behind the battery, which allows you to disconnect that harness from the front of the computer) and look *very* carefully at it, to see if any pins are bent over. This can cause anything from a dead miss in one cylinder to the truck not starting up at all.

The Superchip has absolutely nothing to do with the Securilock system. Anytime there is a fault in that circuit that is activated whenever you attach a performance chip on a Ford computer, like if a pin is bent over in the wiring harness on the front of the computer, you will get that display. There is nothing wrong with the Superchip, it is simply a matter of straightening out that pin, and reattaching the wiring harness carefully and properly to the front of the computer.

Give that a careful check and let us know what you find, ok? Just to give everyone an idea, this has happened to another customer of ours about 2 weeks ago with an F-150, and in his case, he had a dead miss, one cylinder was not firing. I had them pull the harness, and low and behold, they had simply bent a pin over.

Based on talking with you and your symptoms, I think we're going to find you have at least one bent pin. Check it out and get back to us, ok?

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Old Dec 2, 1999 | 10:35 PM
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Mike,
I removed the computer and checked the pins. All are straight. Thanks for the suggestion. I replaced the box and tried to start the vehicle with the Superchip installed and with it uninstalled.
Same results; turns over, but no ignition.
Tomorrow, I'm going to call Ford and see what they can do for me.
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Old Dec 3, 1999 | 07:32 AM
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Russb,
Do yourself a favor. Put everything back in it's place. Reset the computer again by disconnecting the battery, then call Ford. Make no mention of a chip. Just tell'em it shut off on you. Let them do all the legwork.

May save you a major headache.

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Old Dec 3, 1999 | 02:12 PM
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OK Russ, it sounds to me like something else is going on there, that just happened to have coincidentally occurred at approximately the same time. Your computer checked out just fine at Superchips, as did the Superchip itself. Since none of the pins were bent over (and that happens only very rarely, of course, as you have to be fairly un-careful to do that!), that tells us that sonmething else somewhere else has failed, so it's time to let your dealer investigate under warranty.

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Old Dec 12, 1999 | 08:02 AM
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russb,
Sounds like your truck has the symptoms of the passive anti theft system problem, I'm not sure how that system works but I'm gonna take a guess that it reads a code from the ignition key when it is inserted into the ignition tumbler switch. I had the same problem on the wifes GM product. The chip reader inside the tumbler failed and the car would not even turn over and the security light was blinking. This was absolutely a dealer fix no problem to put the tumbler in but the dealer had to recode the computer for the new key and the repair bill was let me just say (OUCH). Hope yours is under warranty.

 
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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 11:43 PM
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I'm bringing this topic back on because I had a situation tonite with my pats security system. First off I disconnected the battery for about 10 minutes with the head light switch on. Then turned the light switch off and connected the battery. Well the X didn't start. All lights went on but the engine would not turn over, nothing. I thought, oh no what did I do. So I disconnected the battery again for a few minutes and tried again. No go. Then I thought that maybe the security system (fords stuff) went bad, so I got the fob and set the alarm and disarmed it. No go. But one thing I did noticed, the horn didn't honk on the disarming. So I had a pretty good Idea what it was. Well after sweating for about ten minutes it honked and started. For your info I had the superchip for about 9 months before this happened. So the stock alarm can prevent the truck from starting. Just thought I'd bring this up for future references. Happy Chippin.

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Old Oct 27, 2000 | 12:58 AM
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Hi hdlouie,

Wow, this *is* an old thread!

Good post, thanks for mentioning that for others who may run into that as well.

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