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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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PCM and superchip question.

My brother just purchased himself a 2000 XLT 7700 series ford F-150 extended cab. He is looking to get a superchip. His PCM number is AXP2. However, I noticed superchips is only selling the new modular superchip programmer instead of the old style chip... Does anyone have just the chip for this code for sale or know where I could purchase one?

I want to introduce him to the mod world.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Hi 4X4PWR,

Good to "see" you again!

We can provide anything he wants, whether it's the old single-bank 1100 single program Superchip, the "standard" 1715 Micro Tuner (hand-held flash programmer), or the newer 4-bank technology custom tuning products with our custom tuning.

What will actually get him the best results is our *custom* tuning, and we can deliver that in a single program chip, and multi-program chip, or the hand held flash device, the Micro Tuner.

I'll give you a link you can read, and you'll see *all* of the available Superchip tuning products - what I suggest using is either our Part# 5500 (single program 4-bank custom chip), our Part# 6600 (4-program 4-bank custom chip) or our Part# 9100 (3-program custom Micro Tuner) - those are the newer 4-bank style products that we can deliver our custom tuning in, so he gets the best possible power and performance gains. There is significant *additional* power and performance gains in our custom tuning over what you get in the "standard" Superchips products, so that is what most people here are doing now.

To have the convenience of multiple programs you can change literally on-the-fly, I suggest using the #6600 - the 4-program custom chip - that way he can have everything from an "mpg' tune to a towing program to an ll-out performance tune, etc., all available instantly at the turn of it's program selector ****.

Here's the link: http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...chips%3BFoMoCo

I hope that information helps, and as always, feel free to give us a call to go over any of this.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 02:38 AM
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Hello Mike,

I am actually the brother that is looking for the superchip. All I know about them is very minimal, besides the fact that they are supposed to increase hp. My truck isnt going to be used for racing and what not, just like to have the extra power and knowing I can get a little more out of the truck.

Right now the only mod I have on my truck is the K&N FIPK, and am debating on either putting the chip on, then doing the dual exhaust, or doing the exhaust now and then the chip. If I do go with a chip im debating on either the 1100 or the 5500. What sort of gains would I be able to get from the 1100 to the 5500? I have been reading up a bit online and what not, but most of the places just talk about 20% hp increase and so forth.

So, I suppose my question is this. If i went with the 1100 what sort of gains will I see? If I went with the 5500 what gains would I see? I am aware of the higher octane gas and so forth, and being in alaska the gas right now is about 2.25/gallon for the premium... so its sort of a toss up if I am really going to do this. So I guess I need to be sold :P
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Hi 4x4me,

Thanks for dropping by!

To get specific information about what gains will be seen on a specific vehicle, we have to know what engine & transmission is in the vehicle, how many miles are on it, how it's been used, what fuel it's been fed, what part of the country & at what altitude the vehicle operates, it's maintenance history, etc.

Assuming a well-maintained vehicle - which means O2 senors not more than 30K miles old, a fresh fuel filter, the ignition system is up to snuff (not a 100K mile vehicle with original parts scenario), etc., we tell people to expect roughly 10%-13% more peak HP because that is roughly what just about any vehicle will make, regardless of it's powertrain, over whatever the vehicle is making right now - assuming it's ignition system & all other maintenance items are up to snuff. (By the way, a 20% HP gain would be 52 HP on a 260 HP 5.4 motor - that kind of power gain will *never* happen from tuning alone on a naturally aspirated 5.4).

You are always going to get a better tune, higher power & performance gains, as well as better driveability and mpg with our in-depth custom tuning as opposed to our "standard" Superchips tuning - on *any* FoMoCo vehicle. The 1100 gets the "standard" Superchips performance tuning, where the 5500, 6600 & 9100 get our in-depth custom tuning.

The 1100 & 5500 are both single-program chips - for most people it's a mistake to try to get by on just a single performance program because that forces compromises, as that one tune has to be able to do everything - like the original factory program. These are not single-use vehicles - almost no owners are towing 100% of the time, and most people aren't in a situation where they are NEVER going to tow anything, ever. Most are daily drivers & occasional tow vehicles, for example. We recommend going with the 6600 multi-program chip to give you maximum flexibility - giving you programs for every type of use & octane level, and that only costs a very few $$ more over a single program custom chip.

Typical gains from our custom tuning on a well-maintained '99-'03 260 HP 5.4 SOHC in these F-150's run 30+ HP on premium gas, and some gain 35 HP or a bit more with our maximum performance custom tuning. The 1100 is going to be at least 10-12 HP below that level, and the motor will transition over into open loop later (where the real power is made) than with our custom tuning as well. Basically, you'll get 30%-40% more power gain from our custom tuning compared to what you get from the standard Superchips tuning, and your engine will transition into open loop quicker, too - allowing more power to be made sooner. The difference in 1/4 mile times on a truck like that would generally be about a half-second improvement with our custom tuning over the times with the standard Superchips tuning - that's a lot of additional performance gain via our custom tuning.

Last - just a quick comment on your exhaust modification plans - we do not recommend installing a "true dual" exhaust system on these late-model trucks & SUV's. Exhaust system design, both from the factory and in the aftermarket, has changed drastically over the last few model years, and on the 1997 & newer F-150 a true dual exhaust is the best way to actually *reduce* lower-rpm torque - that's the last thing any of these heavy trucks need, especially one like yours with the 7700 lb payload package. These days, to avoid the loss of lower rpm torque and to get maximum horsepower gains, we recommend using a properly flow-engineered cat-back exhaust system like the Magnaflow. (You can read all about that on our web site in the exhaust section - look at our Part#'s 15609 & 15749, for example.)

If you'd like to go over any of this in more detail, or to place an order, you can give us a call at our number listed below & we'll be happy to help.

Best of luck whatever you decide!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Thank you for the quick and in depth response,

I am running the 5.4ltr Engine, not sure on the tranny (as posted new to trucks). I am positive I will be purchasing my chip through you but I have one last question. Should I purchase the exhaust setup before I do the chip so you can customize for that exhaust setup, or is that not needed?

Thanks again,

Jason
 
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