Chip performance problem.
Thanks all for your advice! I'm currently working on this problem for a couple directions but I'm in need of a scanner. I located one at my local AutoZone for $149 (OUCH!). I tried Pep Boys with no luck, Advance Auto Parts wanted to sell me this $199 scan tool, plus I'd need a cartridge for another $99 which had to special order.
The clerk (and I use that term lightly) at Forrest City auto parts insisted that no such puppy exists yet. And the guy at Napa insisted he had one for $43 that works. Yeah right! He told me even though it is only for EEC-IV that it will still "pull codes". No thanks! It looks like I'm stuck with $150 or bust. Any leads?
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2000 F-150 XLT, Reg Cab/Long Box, Styleside, Oxford White, Dark Graphite Int., 4x4, 4.6L, 3.55 L/S, Off-Road pkg (Skid Plates, Cab Steps, Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers, LT265/70R17SL), Class III Towing pkg with Heavy Duty Cooling pkg, 4 wheel disk ABS, Overhead Console, Factory In-Dash CD, Remote Keyless Entry, and Sliding Rear Window.
Added: K&N FIPK, Cabin Air Filtration, Ventvisors, Ford Bug Deflector, New: Ford Bedliner, SuperChip
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The clerk (and I use that term lightly) at Forrest City auto parts insisted that no such puppy exists yet. And the guy at Napa insisted he had one for $43 that works. Yeah right! He told me even though it is only for EEC-IV that it will still "pull codes". No thanks! It looks like I'm stuck with $150 or bust. Any leads?
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2000 F-150 XLT, Reg Cab/Long Box, Styleside, Oxford White, Dark Graphite Int., 4x4, 4.6L, 3.55 L/S, Off-Road pkg (Skid Plates, Cab Steps, Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers, LT265/70R17SL), Class III Towing pkg with Heavy Duty Cooling pkg, 4 wheel disk ABS, Overhead Console, Factory In-Dash CD, Remote Keyless Entry, and Sliding Rear Window.
Added: K&N FIPK, Cabin Air Filtration, Ventvisors, Ford Bug Deflector, New: Ford Bedliner, SuperChip
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HI Y2K Offroad,
It was nice talking with you again.
You are running into the same things I found, though I have to confess that I have not recently shopped for OBD-II code scanners. But what I found when I checked this out some time back was the same things you are finding, that the OBD-II scanners for 1996 & newer Fords are considerably more expensive!! While you can find EEC-IV scanners for as cheap as less than $25, the EEC-V units are a lot more.
Let us know if someone comes up with a cheaper workable unit, by all means!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
It was nice talking with you again.
You are running into the same things I found, though I have to confess that I have not recently shopped for OBD-II code scanners. But what I found when I checked this out some time back was the same things you are finding, that the OBD-II scanners for 1996 & newer Fords are considerably more expensive!! While you can find EEC-IV scanners for as cheap as less than $25, the EEC-V units are a lot more.
Let us know if someone comes up with a cheaper workable unit, by all means!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
Well I broke down and went out and got one of those Sunpro unit. I think I'm walking a little funny know 
as I shelled out $150 for something I'm not going to use much! With that aside there were no codes present, which surprised me quite a bit. I was expecting to be notified of a too lean condition, or cylinder misfire. Nothing... Makes me wonder if something ain't up with the PCM.
I did find 2 DTCs using the digital dash diagnostic trick. I'll post them after eating. (Which makes me wonder if the scanner is working).
Thoughts, ideas, help?? Tnx.
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2000 F-150 XLT, Reg Cab/Long Box, Styleside, Oxford White, Dark Graphite Int., 4x4, 4.6L, 3.55 L/S, Off-Road pkg (Skid Plates, Cab Steps, Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers, LT265/70R17SL), Class III Towing pkg with Heavy Duty Cooling pkg, 4 wheel disk ABS, Overhead Console, Factory In-Dash CD, Remote Keyless Entry, and Sliding Rear Window.
Added: K&N FIPK, Cabin Air Filtration, Ventvisors, Ford Bug Deflector, New: Ford Bedliner, SuperChip
as I shelled out $150 for something I'm not going to use much! With that aside there were no codes present, which surprised me quite a bit. I was expecting to be notified of a too lean condition, or cylinder misfire. Nothing... Makes me wonder if something ain't up with the PCM.I did find 2 DTCs using the digital dash diagnostic trick. I'll post them after eating. (Which makes me wonder if the scanner is working).
Thoughts, ideas, help?? Tnx.
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2000 F-150 XLT, Reg Cab/Long Box, Styleside, Oxford White, Dark Graphite Int., 4x4, 4.6L, 3.55 L/S, Off-Road pkg (Skid Plates, Cab Steps, Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers, LT265/70R17SL), Class III Towing pkg with Heavy Duty Cooling pkg, 4 wheel disk ABS, Overhead Console, Factory In-Dash CD, Remote Keyless Entry, and Sliding Rear Window.
Added: K&N FIPK, Cabin Air Filtration, Ventvisors, Ford Bug Deflector, New: Ford Bedliner, SuperChip
Okay, according to the mustang world site the meaning of those codes is as follows:
d147: SCP Invalid or missing data for vehicle security
What the hell does that mean??
5284: Oil Pressure Switch Failure
HUH???
I would assume that those codes get reset each time the battery is disconnected. But I would also have to think that something as serious as an Oil Pressure Switch Failure would show up as a code, thus the scan tool would grab it.
Arrrgh!!! This just keeps getting more confusing!
d147: SCP Invalid or missing data for vehicle security
What the hell does that mean??
5284: Oil Pressure Switch Failure
HUH???
I would assume that those codes get reset each time the battery is disconnected. But I would also have to think that something as serious as an Oil Pressure Switch Failure would show up as a code, thus the scan tool would grab it.
Arrrgh!!! This just keeps getting more confusing!
Ok, now I'm completely stumped. I just went outside and looked at everything again.
As I said, I'm getting dtc5284: Oil Pressure Switch Failure, yet my Oil Pressure Guage is working fine.
However, looping though the guage options on, I noticed "OIL000", a reading of 0 for oil pressure, keeping in mind the engine WAS running. Again according to Mustang World the OIL option means:
OIL:
"Displays the code (0-250) for the oil pressure switch input to the HEC. Oil pressure gauge will indicate present oil pressure. Normal oil pressure (greater than 6psi) will display a value between 000 and 176. A low oil pressure or an inoperative engine oil pressure switch (less than 6 psi) will display a value greater than 176. "
If it's not working, then how is the Oil pressure guage working? Someone care to take a look at their own truck and tell me if you're showing the same thing? Thanks!
I'm starting to think my PCM got PO'd at me during my SuperChip install...
As I said, I'm getting dtc5284: Oil Pressure Switch Failure, yet my Oil Pressure Guage is working fine.
However, looping though the guage options on, I noticed "OIL000", a reading of 0 for oil pressure, keeping in mind the engine WAS running. Again according to Mustang World the OIL option means:
OIL:
"Displays the code (0-250) for the oil pressure switch input to the HEC. Oil pressure gauge will indicate present oil pressure. Normal oil pressure (greater than 6psi) will display a value between 000 and 176. A low oil pressure or an inoperative engine oil pressure switch (less than 6 psi) will display a value greater than 176. "
If it's not working, then how is the Oil pressure guage working? Someone care to take a look at their own truck and tell me if you're showing the same thing? Thanks!
I'm starting to think my PCM got PO'd at me during my SuperChip install...
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From: Nashville, TN
Y2K--
What's the "digital diagnostic trick" again? I remember seeing it a few days ago, but darn if I can find it now...
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JK_TN
2001 Ford F150 SuperCrew
Black/Lariat/5.4/4x4/3.55LS/Towing Pkg.
Pendaliner SR; Quantum ATB Tool Box by Better Built; TAP BrakeMaster Electronic Trailer Brake Control.
"Often wrong; never in doubt."
What's the "digital diagnostic trick" again? I remember seeing it a few days ago, but darn if I can find it now...
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JK_TN
2001 Ford F150 SuperCrew
Black/Lariat/5.4/4x4/3.55LS/Towing Pkg.
Pendaliner SR; Quantum ATB Tool Box by Better Built; TAP BrakeMaster Electronic Trailer Brake Control.
"Often wrong; never in doubt."
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As a matter of fact, I looked at mine last night and got the same 000 reading for oil. Based upon the above post, I think that 000 is the best value, since something over 176 was bad.
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2000 F-150 XLT Sport, Silver 4-door Supercab StyleSide
Short Bed (Only way to fit in the garage)
17" Sport Wheels with BFG tires, 3.55 R, 4.6l V8, Auto (First one in 20 years)
In-Dash Single CD Player, 60/40 Split bench dark graphite
Mods So Far
K&N Filter, Gatorback Spray-In Bedliner, Llumar ProShield Window Tint
WMS Velocity Tube
Future Plans
Superchip, Upgraded Speakers/Stereo
FlowMaster Exhaust, Nerf Bars
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2000 F-150 XLT Sport, Silver 4-door Supercab StyleSide
Short Bed (Only way to fit in the garage)
17" Sport Wheels with BFG tires, 3.55 R, 4.6l V8, Auto (First one in 20 years)
In-Dash Single CD Player, 60/40 Split bench dark graphite
Mods So Far
K&N Filter, Gatorback Spray-In Bedliner, Llumar ProShield Window Tint
WMS Velocity Tube
Future Plans
Superchip, Upgraded Speakers/Stereo
FlowMaster Exhaust, Nerf Bars