Who has had custom programming done?
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Who has had custom programming done?
I would like to know who has had custom programming done to their Superchip? What you had done and how it worked out for ya? I'm mainly interested in transmission tweaks but I'd like to hear about anything else that you've done...
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Mike,
I have, on my personal vehicle, down quite a few diferent custom chips with Superchips. Although since mine is a 5 speed there has not been any tranny changes. I have though incorparated these different engine and tire size changes..... Supercharger, larger mass air, headers, throttle body spacer, and 39" tires. With this set up I picked up another 35hp with the chip. This coming up week we are going to be tweaking the chip with Superchips while the truck is on the dyno so we will know at that moment what exactly is going on and am hoping to pick up a few more hp.
I must say that most of the trucks that come through my shop are not in need of such a custom chip. The most common is just a tire size and rear end ratio change.
In my opion the custom chip works great. But just so you know, not every custom chip is the same. At times it might take 2-3 custom programs to get exactly what you are looking for. This is not your installers or sellers fault but just a different interpretation of what you want from the people at Superchip. Not to worry though because they (Superchips) will tweak the chip until you are happy.
Hope this helps some.
Ryan http://www.fly-n-hi.com/trucknats/ryan.html
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I have, on my personal vehicle, down quite a few diferent custom chips with Superchips. Although since mine is a 5 speed there has not been any tranny changes. I have though incorparated these different engine and tire size changes..... Supercharger, larger mass air, headers, throttle body spacer, and 39" tires. With this set up I picked up another 35hp with the chip. This coming up week we are going to be tweaking the chip with Superchips while the truck is on the dyno so we will know at that moment what exactly is going on and am hoping to pick up a few more hp.
I must say that most of the trucks that come through my shop are not in need of such a custom chip. The most common is just a tire size and rear end ratio change.
In my opion the custom chip works great. But just so you know, not every custom chip is the same. At times it might take 2-3 custom programs to get exactly what you are looking for. This is not your installers or sellers fault but just a different interpretation of what you want from the people at Superchip. Not to worry though because they (Superchips) will tweak the chip until you are happy.
Hope this helps some.
Ryan http://www.fly-n-hi.com/trucknats/ryan.html
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Mostly people with superchargers will have a custom chip. Or if they have a preference. You can have the speed limiter removed, or kept, you can have the rev limiter removed, or kept and etc.
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HI!... MIKE S : I had SUPERCHIPS (MIKE T.) do a custom programmed SUPERCHIP for me. I was'nt happy with the standard chips upgrades to the tranny shift firmness. So I had them crank the line preasure up as high as they can do with the chip. It's a lot better than before but still does'nt shift hard enough for me. So in the spring I will be installing a BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit and some other goodies in the tranny. I also had to have a custom program done after I installed a set of 4.10 gears. The 4.10's were causing the rpm's to come up so quick in 1st gear that the tranny did'nt have enough time to shift into 2nd before it hit the rev limiter. So they moved my rev limiter from 5700rpm to 5800rpm. It shifts great and chirps the tires during the 1st to 2nd shift. Hope this helps you out MIKE!
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FUTURE MODS : JBA headers, power pulleys, twin electric fans, traction bars, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit, POWERAID, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 310H.P / 405ft/lbs of torque.
OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w 530H.P(natural), 750H.P with N.O.S, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc
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NEAL [ the horsepower freak ] NEWMAN
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, **** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, AUTOMETER guage pod and tranny temp guage, custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP.
FUTURE MODS : JBA headers, power pulleys, twin electric fans, traction bars, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit, POWERAID, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 310H.P / 405ft/lbs of torque.
OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w 530H.P(natural), 750H.P with N.O.S, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc
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Neal...you CAN'T be married and have all those toy's, and if you are, you'd better go kiss her again! Those are some impressive machine's, especially the 83'. Reminds me of my younger days 
JOHNNY MC
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Neal,
Thanks. That's the kinda info I was looking for. How much difference did having Superchips raise the line pressure all the way make over the way they set it normally?? I thought I read somewhere here that someone had them set the converter to lock up in a lower gear to get more torque to the ground, was that you?
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Mike
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Thanks. That's the kinda info I was looking for. How much difference did having Superchips raise the line pressure all the way make over the way they set it normally?? I thought I read somewhere here that someone had them set the converter to lock up in a lower gear to get more torque to the ground, was that you?
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Mike
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Dear MikeS,
Just to give you an idea, the "standard" Superchip raises that line pressure about 20%. Neal's is not turned "all the way up", as that would instantly make the vehicle undriveable, of course. His is increased by about 40%, or about twice as much, and you have to be careful about doing that, so you don't end up with real stiff upshifts on very light throttle in the rain, for example.
Another point is that the Superchip can only dial in more of the line pressure that the transmission is *already* physically capable of producing. When more line pressure than *that* is needed, that's when a shift kit that actually modifies the transmission's physical ability to generate more line pressure should be used.
Just some more food for thought, Mike S.
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Just to give you an idea, the "standard" Superchip raises that line pressure about 20%. Neal's is not turned "all the way up", as that would instantly make the vehicle undriveable, of course. His is increased by about 40%, or about twice as much, and you have to be careful about doing that, so you don't end up with real stiff upshifts on very light throttle in the rain, for example.
Another point is that the Superchip can only dial in more of the line pressure that the transmission is *already* physically capable of producing. When more line pressure than *that* is needed, that's when a shift kit that actually modifies the transmission's physical ability to generate more line pressure should be used.
Just some more food for thought, Mike S.
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MikeS,
I had my revlimiter moved up to 6500 rpm.
As my tranny is a manual the chip couldn't affect the shift points. This is my second chip with this mod and I love it. I use it for climbing sand dunes. If you hit the revlimiter halfway up you don't make it. If you shift halfway up you don't make it. Having the extra 1000 rpm saves me from both problems.
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I had my revlimiter moved up to 6500 rpm.
As my tranny is a manual the chip couldn't affect the shift points. This is my second chip with this mod and I love it. I use it for climbing sand dunes. If you hit the revlimiter halfway up you don't make it. If you shift halfway up you don't make it. Having the extra 1000 rpm saves me from both problems.
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Mike: Thanks for the food Is there any advantage to having the torque converter "lock up" in say second gear instead of third or OD??
JMC: Did you have any other motor work done? 6500 RPM seems to me a bit more than a stock motor could handle?
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Is there any advantage to having the torque converter "lock up" in say second gear instead of third or OD??JMC: Did you have any other motor work done? 6500 RPM seems to me a bit more than a stock motor could handle?
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Dear Fast,
Yes it does, as it's a custom program. The additional cost is $125, as that is Superchips standard custom programming fee. In Neal's case, he didn't have to pay that expense, as we *owed* that to him. So he got a custom program to compensate for his 4.10 gears, and to firm up the shifts even more.
Most people don't need this done, as the standard Superchip already improves the shift characteristics so much that most people are well satisfied. But for anyone who has ever run a manual valve body, like Neal and myself and others here, you always want that feeling, and so for those few of us, it's worthwhile.
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Yes it does, as it's a custom program. The additional cost is $125, as that is Superchips standard custom programming fee. In Neal's case, he didn't have to pay that expense, as we *owed* that to him. So he got a custom program to compensate for his 4.10 gears, and to firm up the shifts even more.
Most people don't need this done, as the standard Superchip already improves the shift characteristics so much that most people are well satisfied. But for anyone who has ever run a manual valve body, like Neal and myself and others here, you always want that feeling, and so for those few of us, it's worthwhile.
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Dear MikeS,
No, there is no advantage to locking up the TQ in second gear, in terms of quicker acceleration. As a matter of fact, at anywhere between 3000 and 3600 rpm in second gear at WOT, the factory program locks up the TQ, and you lose 100 lbs./ft. of torque! So the Superchip will delay the onset of TQ lockup in second gear at WOT until the upshift point, and thus restore the 100 lbs./ft. of torque lost when the factory program locks it up prematurely. This is true of the V-8 F-150 from '97 on up.
With regards to turning those kinds of rpms, 6500 rpm, we don't advise it, but those engines can do it if forced to. JMC doesn't cut his any slack, and he did that for 3 years in his last truck, with no problems. I woudn't advise that, but for his situation in going up those dunes, he really needs it, and so far he's had good luck.
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No, there is no advantage to locking up the TQ in second gear, in terms of quicker acceleration. As a matter of fact, at anywhere between 3000 and 3600 rpm in second gear at WOT, the factory program locks up the TQ, and you lose 100 lbs./ft. of torque! So the Superchip will delay the onset of TQ lockup in second gear at WOT until the upshift point, and thus restore the 100 lbs./ft. of torque lost when the factory program locks it up prematurely. This is true of the V-8 F-150 from '97 on up.
With regards to turning those kinds of rpms, 6500 rpm, we don't advise it, but those engines can do it if forced to. JMC doesn't cut his any slack,
and he did that for 3 years in his last truck, with no problems. I woudn't advise that, but for his situation in going up those dunes, he really needs it, and so far he's had good luck.------------------
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MikeS,
No, I haven't had any "motor work" done. 6500 rpm on a bone stock motor is not for the weak of heart. I agree with Mike T and do not recommend anybody have their revlimiter set to 6500rpm. Maybe I am lucky or maybe Ford has themself on h*ll of a fine motor. I wonder what 6500 rpm would do to a V10?
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Jean Marc Chartier
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No, I haven't had any "motor work" done. 6500 rpm on a bone stock motor is not for the weak of heart. I agree with Mike T and do not recommend anybody have their revlimiter set to 6500rpm. Maybe I am lucky or maybe Ford has themself on h*ll of a fine motor. I wonder what 6500 rpm would do to a V10?
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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Mike: Thanks for the info... My thinking on the subject was bass ackwards. How does locking the TC lose you 100ft/lbs of torque? I dont get it.. I would think you would have less "fluid loss" if the converter was locked up. Isn't that why it is locked up in the first place?? 
JMC: My guess is at 6500 RPM the V10 would twist its crank.
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How does locking the TC lose you 100ft/lbs of torque? I dont get it.. I would think you would have less "fluid loss" if the converter was locked up. Isn't that why it is locked up in the first place?? JMC: My guess is at 6500 RPM the V10 would twist its crank.
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HI!... Well guys there won't be any race stories from me for a while. Today I brought my truck into my dealer for my blown head gasket. After waiting for 2 months for parts to come in. Well they arn't sure if it is the dreaded casting flaw or not. They will know tomorrow. They hav'nt got that far into the motor yet. They said if it is the casting flaw that a replacement motor would'nt be available for a long time. Ford CANADA seems not to have any spare motors available right now. YA RIGHT! NOT! So I will know tomorrow what they are going to do. They said though, if it's a casting flaw, that they will replace my engine. If it's not they will just replace the head gasket. So in any case "THE FREAK" is without my baby for the rest of the week. By the way my dealer will not give me a loaner car because I did'nt buy the extended warrenty. That sucks!!!! OH WELL at least the CHEVY's can rest easy for a while!LOL
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'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, **** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, AUTOMETER guage pod and tranny temp guage, custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP.
FUTURE MODS : JBA headers, power pulleys, twin electric fans, traction bars, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit, POWERAID, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 310H.P / 405ft/lbs of torque.
OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w 530H.P(natural), 750H.P with N.O.S, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc
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NEAL [ the horsepower freak ] NEWMAN
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, **** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, AUTOMETER guage pod and tranny temp guage, custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP.
FUTURE MODS : JBA headers, power pulleys, twin electric fans, traction bars, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit, POWERAID, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 310H.P / 405ft/lbs of torque.
OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w 530H.P(natural), 750H.P with N.O.S, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc