Anyone know this?
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Mike,
Hehe yeah you went deep into it again
But hey thats ok I like to see you type . I pretty much knew about the advantages in the superchip then just horse power. (Got a friend that is a Distributor) Anyways I was just trying to get a rough idea if someone has dyno'd there truck and what they got from it. This would show a area on where my hp can be (yes depends on condition) But its a piece of mind . Yes I got the same information about the Superchip from there 1800 hotline but I also want to get out sourced information. I know you know what I mean
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Fred Folkerts/Chicago IL
1997 Ford 150XLT Black
5.4 TRiTiON/4x4 Off Road
Hehe yeah you went deep into it again
But hey thats ok I like to see you type . I pretty much knew about the advantages in the superchip then just horse power. (Got a friend that is a Distributor) Anyways I was just trying to get a rough idea if someone has dyno'd there truck and what they got from it. This would show a area on where my hp can be (yes depends on condition) But its a piece of mind . Yes I got the same information about the Superchip from there 1800 hotline but I also want to get out sourced information. I know you know what I mean ------------------
Fred Folkerts/Chicago IL
1997 Ford 150XLT Black
5.4 TRiTiON/4x4 Off Road
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Anyone know this?
I have the K&N air filter and Superchip On a 1997 Ford F150 5.4 . Anyone dyno this setup yet? Or have any guess's on how much HP this can be.
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Fred Folkerts/Chicago IL
1997 Ford 150XLT Black
5.4 TRiTiON/4x4 Off Road
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Fred Folkerts/Chicago IL
1997 Ford 150XLT Black
5.4 TRiTiON/4x4 Off Road
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Dear Fred,
If you don't mind a response from me, on the chassis dyno at Superchips, the standard drop-in K&N air filter is worth about 5-6 hp on this vehicle. On the 97 5.4 with the Superchip, in terms of rear-wheel horsepower, the Superchip adds anywhere from a low of 16 hp, to a high of about 20 hp, depending on the exact vehicle configuration, age, & overall health of the powertrain. Then add say another 3-4 hp for the K&N, for a total rear-wheel increase of about 20-25 hp or so. The total SAE Net at the flywheel should be between 260-268, (stock was 235)depending on the general health of the engine.
These numbers can be misleading though. For example, with the Superchip on these automatic F-150's, it restores the 100 lbs./ft. or so of torque that is lost when the torque converter locks up about halfway thru second gear. So even if there were no power gain, the automatics will accelerate quicker just from that one change, and of course there are numerous other "transitional" areas that are also changed, and those types of gains are hard to advertise. The point being, there is a lot more going on in the Superchip that improves performance than just the raw power increase. Another example is the removal of the spark retard during and just after a neavy-throttle upshift; for a fraction of a second, there is a big hp gain from removing this spark retard, and that also helps acceleration noticeably, but again, can't really be advertised.
With each new model year, we see more and more "transitional" areas that can be improved noticeably, and that trend seems to be ongoing.
I know that's more info than you asked for, sorry about that!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
If you don't mind a response from me, on the chassis dyno at Superchips, the standard drop-in K&N air filter is worth about 5-6 hp on this vehicle. On the 97 5.4 with the Superchip, in terms of rear-wheel horsepower, the Superchip adds anywhere from a low of 16 hp, to a high of about 20 hp, depending on the exact vehicle configuration, age, & overall health of the powertrain. Then add say another 3-4 hp for the K&N, for a total rear-wheel increase of about 20-25 hp or so. The total SAE Net at the flywheel should be between 260-268, (stock was 235)depending on the general health of the engine.
These numbers can be misleading though. For example, with the Superchip on these automatic F-150's, it restores the 100 lbs./ft. or so of torque that is lost when the torque converter locks up about halfway thru second gear. So even if there were no power gain, the automatics will accelerate quicker just from that one change, and of course there are numerous other "transitional" areas that are also changed, and those types of gains are hard to advertise. The point being, there is a lot more going on in the Superchip that improves performance than just the raw power increase. Another example is the removal of the spark retard during and just after a neavy-throttle upshift; for a fraction of a second, there is a big hp gain from removing this spark retard, and that also helps acceleration noticeably, but again, can't really be advertised.
With each new model year, we see more and more "transitional" areas that can be improved noticeably, and that trend seems to be ongoing.
I know that's more info than you asked for, sorry about that!
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com