OK, I'm ready to buy a chip and exhaust. I'm going with the Superchip, but not 100% ready to make a decision on the exhaust. I like the idea of having duals, but will I lose too much low end power?
I have read about the Magnaflow exhaust systam that is sold for the Screw, but it's a single system. The performance gains look great, but is there a system that does an "X" pipe to a DI/DO muffler, and duals out the back? That's what I want, but if the single gives better power gains then that's what I really want.


Rick

 

hey! go with the magnaflow si/so. i bought the system 4 months agao and could not be happier with it! the 4" stainless tip is bad ***! it makes all other systems look very cheesy. lot's of systems have a chrome or stainless tip, but when you stand back and look at it you can see the wimpy piping that leads up to it. not the magnaflow system. they use 3' tubing, a stainless muffler and 18" x 4" stainless tip. this makes for a great look as well as performance. when i started looking for an exhaust system i looked at everything. the more systems i saw it became how obvious how gay duals look. get the the magnaflow..... you will be a better man for it!

 

Rugdnit, are you proposing that people who have dual exhaust on their rides are gay & unmanly??

Or that you are far more macho for your exhaust system?

Either way I'm sure you'll find differing opinions on this one. As for myself I'm still wodering how you can tell about an individual's masculinity by their exhaust system ??

 

hey! if losing power is gay... then YES duals are gay. when done right they look good, but too many people have the redneck hillbilly look and if that is what they like.... then rock on. it's all in what YOU like on YOUR truck, but really ... look at a truck that has duals at a 45 out the sides and a truck that has duals right out the back and underneath the bumper. when you spend any amount of time looking at the setup that has the tips underneath the bumper you begin to realize that it just does not look good. especially when you can see the 2.5" tubing lead up to the 3" or 4" tips. a properly set up exhaust does not expose the tubing where the tip meets up. think about it.... how many cars or trucks have massive chrome or stainless tips that expose weak tubing that leads to the tip..... yeah that looks custom!

 

 

Hey ralderman, what is the code for yopur truck, I have a Superchip for sale. I have basicly the same set up except mine is two wheel drive. If it isn't the same code it isn't really worth the reburn, you may as well buy new. I got mine about 8 months ago , I really love it but I wish I would have got the Tuner . It is also a code error reader. If interested let me know. Thanks

 

Hi ralderman,

Thanks for calling today, it was a pleasure to speak with you.

A dual exhaust system that actually *gains* torque everywhere *can* be done, we have worked that out as we discussed on the phone today, it's just very expensive. Neal the HP Freak, Beastie, myself & some others are running that kind of setup, it's mostly those of us who are willing to spend whatever it takes to get every last horsepower that are going that route, and it's *significantly* more expensive to do right. Those looking for the best bang for the buck in a cat-back exhaust should use the Magnaflow 3" single system, which gives great gains & is all 304 stainless.

The Superchip & Magnaflow cat-back combo you've decided on will give you very nice performance gains, your truck will run & sound better as well as look great.

Have fun!

 

I have the setup which Mike is refering to, and I was worried about loosing low end torque, but like he said, I gained some, and the improvement on the high end was really incredible. This setup compared to my Flowmaster is like a night and day difference. Plus it sounds really nice. At idle it isnt loud, it just hasa nice tone, and at WOT it just screams.

 

Thanks to everyone for their input, as Mike said I deceided to go with the Magnaflow exhaust and superchip. I do still have a few questions.

Is the Microtuner able to change the program on a Superchip chip? Eventually I think the microtuner would be a good investment for changing tire sizes, gears etc... and for the ODBII scanning function. Plus a cool toy to play with. I assume it is, but wanted to make sure.

Secondly, is it beneficial to change the "Y" pipe? If so, what one is use and recommended?


Thanks again Mike, I'll be planning for the next mod.
I can't wait for the parts.


Rick

 

I rather "spend any amount of time" looking at the poon-tang, then tubing and tips...

 

aaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllrighty then! ya' got me! my point was that if you are going to do anything..... do it right. i see too many cheeseball exhaust systems around.... on with the tang'!

 

Hi Rick,

If I understand your question correctly, no, the Micro Tuner cannot change the program in a Superchip module, that's not it's role.

What the Micro Tuner does is allow you to upload the Superchips tuning via the OBD-II port, instead of using the Superchip module, so you can get the standard Superchip tuning without having to remove the PCM and clean it's connector as must be done when using any kind of traditional performance chip. In other words, you use the Micro Tuner *instead* of the traditional Superchip module, it's simply a different way to deliver the performance program to the PCM. With the Superchip module, it attaches to the J3 connector on the back of the PCM and overrides the factory program. With the Micro Tuner, you're reflashing the internal EEPROM in your PCM with the Superchips tuning, so it's an easier installation.

The Micro Tuner *can* recalibrate the speedometer in the 99-02 F-150's for changes to tire size & gear ratio, and it will also allow you to alter the WOT upshift point for each gearchange and the firmness level of the shifts.

One thing to remember about the Micro Tuner is that you can't use it for an application where custom engine tuning to compensate for more involved or major mods is required, for that the traditional Superchip module must be used.

I hope I've understood what you're asking & explained it correctly.

With regard to the Y-pipe, sure, we always like to see the Y-pipe cleaned up (especially when a cat-back exhaust is installed), and what we're talking about here isn't the entire factory Y-pipe assembly that is being repalced, but instead just the actual Y-intersection, where it actually merges from 2 into 1. The factory intersection is "dirty," it scrunches down to smaller diameter and just isn't clean, with casting flash, etc. further reducing flow. So you cut that out and weld in a new "clean" Y-intersection, and you'll need to cut back one part of the factory Y-pipe about 6 inches or so, to have your local muffler shop do a slight bend and provide a smooth transition into the new Y-intersection.

These "Y-pipes" as you hear us call them here are really referring to just the actual intersection itself, not the entire 4 cats & complete Y assembly from the factory.

The replacement Y-pipe is not vehicle model specific, it's a generic intersection sized to fit the factory Y-pipe's diameter on each vehicle, which in the case of the late-model F-150 & Expedition is 2.5" for it's 2 inlets, and then 3" on it's single outlet, to mate up to any 3" cat-back exhaust system.

So it's a weld-in deal your local muffler shop will need to do for you (unless you can weld exhausts yourself), and the improved high-flow Y-pipe itself is very cheap, just give us a quick call for that price. We use Magnaflow for our Y-pipes (again, it's more correctly called the Y-intersection, as it's not the entire factory Y-pipe).

 

Mike,

So you're saying if I get a Magnaflow then I shouldn't use a micro tuner but rather a custom chip?

Also, Just a suggestion: you might want to post a list of FAQ's sepecially in regards to the micro tuner so you don't have to keep answering the same questions.

 

Hello Tiger,

No, that's not what I'm saying at all, but it certainly can be a bit confusing sometimes to keep up with all the details, etc., so perhaps you may have been confused by something in one of my posts............

Installing a cat-back exhaust system does not cause any need for custom engine tuning in these vehicles. You can use things like an intake kit, a cat-back exhaust system, electric fans, underdrive pulleys, and many other mods and still use the Micro Tuner.

What you *can't* use with the Micro Tuner are things that are going to require custom engine tuning to compensate for, obvious mods like a blower, nitrous, ported heads, etc., and things like larger fuel injectors or an aftermarket MAF.

To go over this in detail, please feel free to give us a call if you like, & we can spend some time going over this with you. Many people come to us for their proposed mods, both the parts and the advice, etc., about things like what's the best bang for the buck, what kinds of mods will and will not actually require custom tuning, etc., so we'll be happy to help you with all of that if you like.

This is not the Performance Products Inc,. web site, it's F-150 Online, so it's just not appropriate for a FAQ about any of our products to be on this site. However, there is something even better.....................

There is an excellent search feature here readily available to everyone, and it's especially helpful to all the "newbies" as we call them (we were all newbies at one time), this huge site gets new people coming in every day of course, so the exact same questions & issues will continue to come up all the time, time after time. Thus, the best way to really address that here on F-150 Online is by the search feature.

What you might want to do is get familiar with making use of the search feature, it's easy to use & very powerful, making all that information available at you fingertips, all for the cost of a couple of mouse clicks.

I hope that answers your question,

 

Thanks for clearing that up Mike, that's exactly what I wanted to know. It would be nice to get a superchip, then be able to fine tune it to individual tastes, shift firmness, or change the tire size w/o having to reprogram the chip. Anyway, thanks for the info.

Also, thanks for the "Y" intersection correction. I think I will get the exhaust installed this weekend if it comes in, and get a "Y" put in later. Maybe in a year or two I'll do headers, hi-flow cats and an "X" pipe to two Magnaflow mufflers.


I just received the SuperChip tonight, quick delivery. Thanks, now I just have to burn up the half tank of gas.



Thanks,

Rick