Hey Mike. 03 H.D. found a home.
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Hey Mike. 03 H.D. found a home.
Hiya Mike,Long time no talk too. I have not been around the board for awhile. But, I have a new addition to the stable. 03 H.D. edition. (pictures forth comming) I just simply Love it. I am looking at putting a chip in it and would like some input into other ideas as well to get a little more out of it but still keeping it a daily driver. I understand it is 20 h.p. short of the Lightning. Do you know if it is just the pulley, or is the computer tuned down as well. I see you are a distributer of Lightning performance parts now. SO what will work on my truck? Are the parts all interchangeable in reguards to the engine?
Well I have asked enough for now. I hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas, and a very happy new year........Eric A.K.A ecm747x
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Hi Eric,
Yes, it has been awhile, good to see you again!
It's 40 hp down from the Lightning, 340 for the 2002 & up Harleys versus 380 for the 2001 & up Lightnings ('99 & '00 Lightnings only were 360 HP).
This was accomplished via both a reduction in boost and changes in tuning, too. Your Harley has 6 PSI boost, the Lightning 8 PSI. The Harley also has a bit less timing & a bit more fuel in it's tuning (generally speaking), and another 600 lbs. of weight to carry around as well. That's not a problem, the Harley can certainly be leaned on.
It's very early on for 2003 Harley and Lightning tuning & development, as these vehicles are really just now starting to be delivered in any significant numbers. However, there are already plenty of things you can do to raise power, and yes, the Harley can use some of the Lightning's performance parts. Some of them have a different effect, so Harley-specific knowledge is required.
Give us a call when you get a chance & we can go over all of this in detail with you, but basically, we can lay *plenty* of power on the Harleys just like we can in the Lightnings.
In fact, we're currently looking for more 2003 Lightnings & Harleys for R&D on the dyno (down at Superchips), so anyone who wants to get in on that & can can make their vehicle available give us a call to make the arrangements!
Congrats on your '03 Harley Eric, & talk to you soon!
Yes, it has been awhile, good to see you again!
It's 40 hp down from the Lightning, 340 for the 2002 & up Harleys versus 380 for the 2001 & up Lightnings ('99 & '00 Lightnings only were 360 HP).
This was accomplished via both a reduction in boost and changes in tuning, too. Your Harley has 6 PSI boost, the Lightning 8 PSI. The Harley also has a bit less timing & a bit more fuel in it's tuning (generally speaking), and another 600 lbs. of weight to carry around as well. That's not a problem, the Harley can certainly be leaned on.
It's very early on for 2003 Harley and Lightning tuning & development, as these vehicles are really just now starting to be delivered in any significant numbers. However, there are already plenty of things you can do to raise power, and yes, the Harley can use some of the Lightning's performance parts. Some of them have a different effect, so Harley-specific knowledge is required.
Give us a call when you get a chance & we can go over all of this in detail with you, but basically, we can lay *plenty* of power on the Harleys just like we can in the Lightnings.
In fact, we're currently looking for more 2003 Lightnings & Harleys for R&D on the dyno (down at Superchips), so anyone who wants to get in on that & can can make their vehicle available give us a call to make the arrangements!
Congrats on your '03 Harley Eric, & talk to you soon!
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Hey Mike,
I wouldn't mind bringing her down and putting her on the dyno. I do have my old chip out of the last truck.. Is it is possible to reburn that one (SVB1) to this code. Sorry didn't look to see what code is in this truck. I am looking at putting a +4 pulley on it. Don't want to go to far on it. Want to keep it at a safe level of boost. Don't know how strong the lower half of the engine is. Also, I would like to open the airbox up some. But I wouldn't want to do this without seeing how the a/f ratios are on the dyno. I saw a few dyno sheets on this forum that were to lean for my taste. I am alos looking at an electric fan as well.
I will give you a call and see what we can work out. DO you know of a superchip dealer with a dyno in the Indy area? The only dyno that I used here doesn't tune Superchips. Talk to you soon...and thanks..Eric
I wouldn't mind bringing her down and putting her on the dyno. I do have my old chip out of the last truck.. Is it is possible to reburn that one (SVB1) to this code. Sorry didn't look to see what code is in this truck. I am looking at putting a +4 pulley on it. Don't want to go to far on it. Want to keep it at a safe level of boost. Don't know how strong the lower half of the engine is. Also, I would like to open the airbox up some. But I wouldn't want to do this without seeing how the a/f ratios are on the dyno. I saw a few dyno sheets on this forum that were to lean for my taste. I am alos looking at an electric fan as well.
I will give you a call and see what we can work out. DO you know of a superchip dealer with a dyno in the Indy area? The only dyno that I used here doesn't tune Superchips. Talk to you soon...and thanks..Eric
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Hi Eric,
No, I don't know of a dyno in that area, we don't keep track of who has what elsewhere. We can work with just about any good dyno operator, they don't have to be a dealer of anything. The key element is dyno operator experience & capability, so as long as you have a good operator who can do *proper* A/F testing (no tailpipe sniffing), we can generally work with them for A/F's.
When we do the initial model year R&D, much of that work is generally done at the Superchips development facility down in the Orlando Florida area. We will also sometimes have vehicles brought here to us, and we'll take them to one of 2 dyno's we use, and there are a few other dyno operators we will work with on some things (like checking WOT A/F's, etc.). But in general, much of the initial model-year R&D needs to be done down at Superchips, because they need to take a look at *many* things, not just raw A/F's but many other aspects, and under many different operating conditions.
The bottom line is, give us a call & we may very well be able to work with your local dyno operator on some aspects of this, we do a lot of that of course.
Sure, we can always reburn an existing F-150 Superchip for a Lightning or Harley, but remember, you will need 2 different states of tune, one for warmer weather and another milder program for use on cooler weather, that is a *must* in these supercharged 5.4's. Thus over 90% of our supercharged 4.6 & 5.4 customers are using the 2-program Flip Chip, though we have a few who are using a pair of single program Superchips, which accomplishes the same thing, just without the conveniece of flipping a switch, that's all.
In terms of how strong the bottom end is in your Harley's motor, with a *safe* tune, you've got *plenty* of room for higher boost & big power gains there. That beautiful forged steel crankshaft with it's cross-bolted mains is good for upwards of 900 hp, the rods are good for 550 to perhaps as much as 600 hp (depending on tune & rpms), and the forged pistons are good for an easy 700+ HP.
Eliminating that restrictive factory airbox will gain nice power as well, there's 18-20 HP waiting to be had there with the intake kit we use for the Harley's, & 20-22 HP on the Lightning. That can be done without change to A/F's during closed loop, and the change during open loop is very small, not enough to cause a need for tuning changes just because of that.
Just give us a call for all the details, as always.
No, I don't know of a dyno in that area, we don't keep track of who has what elsewhere. We can work with just about any good dyno operator, they don't have to be a dealer of anything. The key element is dyno operator experience & capability, so as long as you have a good operator who can do *proper* A/F testing (no tailpipe sniffing), we can generally work with them for A/F's.
When we do the initial model year R&D, much of that work is generally done at the Superchips development facility down in the Orlando Florida area. We will also sometimes have vehicles brought here to us, and we'll take them to one of 2 dyno's we use, and there are a few other dyno operators we will work with on some things (like checking WOT A/F's, etc.). But in general, much of the initial model-year R&D needs to be done down at Superchips, because they need to take a look at *many* things, not just raw A/F's but many other aspects, and under many different operating conditions.
The bottom line is, give us a call & we may very well be able to work with your local dyno operator on some aspects of this, we do a lot of that of course.
Sure, we can always reburn an existing F-150 Superchip for a Lightning or Harley, but remember, you will need 2 different states of tune, one for warmer weather and another milder program for use on cooler weather, that is a *must* in these supercharged 5.4's. Thus over 90% of our supercharged 4.6 & 5.4 customers are using the 2-program Flip Chip, though we have a few who are using a pair of single program Superchips, which accomplishes the same thing, just without the conveniece of flipping a switch, that's all.
In terms of how strong the bottom end is in your Harley's motor, with a *safe* tune, you've got *plenty* of room for higher boost & big power gains there. That beautiful forged steel crankshaft with it's cross-bolted mains is good for upwards of 900 hp, the rods are good for 550 to perhaps as much as 600 hp (depending on tune & rpms), and the forged pistons are good for an easy 700+ HP.
Eliminating that restrictive factory airbox will gain nice power as well, there's 18-20 HP waiting to be had there with the intake kit we use for the Harley's, & 20-22 HP on the Lightning. That can be done without change to A/F's during closed loop, and the change during open loop is very small, not enough to cause a need for tuning changes just because of that.
Just give us a call for all the details, as always.