yes, the PC7424 that I bought comes with a 5" backing plate and 6.5" pads..... it sounds like i may want to step up to a 6" backing plate with those pads, or step down to a 5.5" pad....

i'm not 100% sure though, kind of wondering still.....

hope all went well with the back

 

also, the kit I bought came with a counterweight for the PC.... is this something extra they included or does it come with all of them?

thoughts on it?

 

I really don't think you're going to have a problem with the pads and backing plates. It's been working fine for me for years. I guess it's not as effective as a backing plate that transfers nearly all of it's power but it gets the job done, IMO. Thanks for the concern about my back.

 

guess i won't know til i give them a shot, my PC should be here anyday

you know anything about that counterweight it comes with?

 

Mine came with a 5'' counter weight. You might want to buy the 6" one if you plan on using a 6" bp with 6.5" pads.

 

Good luck guys.

 

This guy figured it out, http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1566027368

 

well, AutoGeek has plastered all over their site that they recommend a 5" backing plate when using 6.5" pads - and based on their PC and CCS pad kit that's what I got.

I guess what it really boils down to is that I won't know the results until I try (which should be soon, I got my order yesterday).

I was just going off what a lot of the guys on this forum were using and getting good results.... if I need to step down to their 5.5" pads, or even 4", then so be it I guess.

 

You need to remember that most on here will only be using their PC on relatively soft Ford paint, which is not nearly as hard as that found on Corvettes.

 

Who cares what AG says, its all marketing. That combo sells the best, thats why they advertise it so much.

It really doesnt matter how soft the paint is when it comes to correction with the PC. The PC is such a weak machine. Youll still be spending several minutes properly breaking down the polish whether its soft or hard clear. The difference is how much correction is done when the polish is broken down. The smaller pads spin faster and create more heat, thus helping the abrasives in the polish cut and reducing the time it takes to break the polish down.

As for what people have recommended and gotten results with on here. I bet the majority of people using 6.5" pads with the PC havent tried 4" or 5.5" pads. Id also be willing to say their results arent as good as their pictures might show. How many people on here actually do alcohol wipe downs after polishing an area? I havent seen a single person on here even mention it.

Go on any big time detailing site and everyone will say to use smaller pads with the PC.

I dont mean to preach about this, but I do have a lot of experience with this and Im just trying to help you get the best results.

 

Hmm, seems I'll have to eventually try this.

 

Yes.... the alcohol wipe down has been mentioned... several times in fact. Yes... several of us have used smaller pads. Yes... they are mentioned and discussed more frequently on the 'big time' detailing sites - small potatoes here. Yes.... one CAN achieve great results with 6.5" pads. Yes... the PC is a weaker machine relative to a Flex or a rotary but, one can certainly accomplish great results with a PC. I still regard it as my 'go-to' machine for most of the cars that I do... sometimes bigger and more powerful isn't the best route, IMO.

The point of everything mentioned here - and as I know you know as you're obviously a fantastic detailer - is that there's lots of ways to accomplish an end result. Lots of ways to skin a cat... I don't like cats.

 

I've heard of the alcohol wipe downs but what exactly are they for? And it sounds like you know what your talking about. [I dont own a DA]

But question, is the G110 stronger/better than the PC?
Or are you saying the PC and G110 are weak compared to the flex and rotarys?

 

All of those machines are weak in general, not necessarily comparing to any other machines.

Every polish will hide defects to a certain extent because of the lubricants and oils in the polish. How much depends on SEVERAL factors which Im not going to discuss. The alcohol removes these substances revealing the true condition of the paint after you've gone over it. You will be very surprised how much can be hidden under certain conditions.

As for the most powerful and biggest not being the best route. Have you ever taken before and after paint measurments when using the rotary and PC? I havent yet, but there have been some very interesting results posted on the web. Yes theres many ways to accomplish the end result, however, some ways are A LOT more effective and will yeild better results in the end. You'll never experience that if you dont experiment.

 

Dan I also do an alcohol wipe down post polishing. I don't see it being mentioned here very often though. It's not for everyone by any means. Just like Brad said, there are many ways to skin a cat unlike some people here believe. Detailing is pretty much composed of personal opinion which makes it great. I still think you can get great results with a PC and 6.5" pads though. I'm going to send you a PM so when you get a chance, shoot one back.