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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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defects / dirt in clear coat

hey guys , i have a new leftover 2007 supercab in silver. is it normal to find imperfections in the paint finish ? i have a half dozen or so small specs of what would appear to be dirt under the clear or paint. they are small and hard to see
but are there. i see no evidence of any repainting or repairs done anywhere on the truck. thanks for any and all input.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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After sitting on the lot for that long in the weather I'm going to venture (sight unseen) that it's normal contaminants. A claybar should fix it right up. Grats on the new ride.

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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thanks for the reply , it has been sitting for some time , the production date is 8/06 yet it is still a 07 truck. these spots/specks seem to be under the paint ?
is it normal for these trucks ? i guess they cant eliminate all contaminates
during the painting process. i will try to clay them out. thanks again
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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If they are under the clear, which is very possible, than nothing short of wet sanding is going to fix the problem. I had a FEW specs of something underneath my clear on my truck as well.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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thanks , i guess its good to see that its not just my truck. wet sanding is a little beyond my ability so i guess ill just live with it.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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thanks , i guess its good to see that its not just my truck. wet sanding is a little beyond my ability so i guess ill just live with it.

Paint defects and containments are two different things.

Chances are you have a little bit of both as we all do. Clay out what you can, and learn to live with "real defects" I can show you on my paint each one I have. I have them charted.

All you can do is work the area to see if you can make it appear better.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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thanks for the advice. i gonna try to make it look as good as possible and live with the little defects. i guess im asking too much for the finish to be flawless or even near flawless
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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thanks for the advice. i gonna try to make it look as good as possible and live with the little defects. i guess im asking too much for the finish to be flawless or even near flawless
No ford paint is flawless. Sorry, but it can look pretty darn good.

The reason for orange peel by the way is to hide the metal imperfections. If we didn't have some degree of it, the panels would look bad.

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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Paint defects and containments are two different things.
Said PERFECTLY...

What you're describing, to me, sounds more like a fisheye or some dirt in the finish.

When you're looking at these 6, or so, defects, does it appear that they are small craters in the clearcoat? Or, maybe, does it look like there's something under the clearcoat (or in the color coat) that is causing a defect?

It should be said that clay will not help either of these two items. Clay will remove bonded contamination (metal flecks, industrial fallout, overspray) (stuff that is sitting on top of or slightly in the paint). If the clear has a visual defect, clay *will not* deal with it.

Does it look like this?



The top portion is a picture of the actual defect. The bottom portion is an illustration of what it would look like under a microscope.

If so, that's classic Fisheye'ing. The only remedy for a spot like the one shown above is a repaint.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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it looks like something got under the clear or color coat and they painted over it
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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it looks like something got under the clear or color coat and they painted over it

So, more along these lines?



Again, the unfortunate outcome here is something pretty similar. You may be able to wetsand the defect out but, you may not. Unless you're exceedingly comfortable with wetsanding and subsequent scuff removal, I'm not sure I'd venture down this road.

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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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yes , that is exactly what the defects look like. i guess ill try to work them a little and see what happens. thank you for the input. short of refinishing i guess its all i can do
 
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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yes , that is exactly what the defects look like. i guess ill try to work them a little and see what happens. thank you for the input. short of refinishing i guess its all i can do
I wouldn't get too terribly carried away with 'working' them. While I detail on the side for several clients and have wetsanded oodles of areas where it was needed, I'd even fall short of saying that I'd be comfortable trying to eliminate such a defect without a paint thickness guage.

I'd be extremely worried about the potential to 'burn through' the clear; thus creating another realm of problems.

What I'm saying is, do this at your own risk!

Good luck with it and congrats on the new truck!

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