Meguiars Detailing Class
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Class Review
Just a quick review of the class. (Well maybe not so quick)
I would recommend this class to all new OCDr's. I read, read and read through the forum sticky and lurked this forum for the past couple of months. I made the plunge and payed a visit to Rick at ADS and picked up some equipment and supplies. I picked up #9, #80, #83, NXT 2.0 set, CCS pads, G100 Medium large clay kit, Hyperdressing, Plast-X and a few other odds and ends. (Getting a grit guard this week). I tackled my truck and wife's car and ended up with really good results. BUT I still was very apprehensive and was questioning my technique for a couple or reasons like too much work removing polish, light scratches not really coming out etc... This was to give info for my reason to sign up for the class. Meg's is 45 minutes away from where I live. What would I have to lose if it was a sales pitch?
Review starts now - First and most important Mike is a great instructor who knows his product line, knows his business and is very clear about the abilities and limitations of the products and equipment. This was very informative.
The first half of the class is classroom presentation discussing Megs history. Then goes into types of paint systems, products, equipment, correction and appearance enhancement. While this was a class that was given by and paid for by Meg's and it revolved around their products (Which I would expect) it was not a 8 hour sales pitch. It was defiantly a class based on instruction, product and equipment selection and technique.
Even though I had read through and tried to use the techniques in the detailing guide I was able to learn what the "Elders" were saying. A few of the bullet points for me were
Work area size - Smaller- Smaller - Smaller during the correction and cleaning stages.
Thin Thin Thin - What is thin - What is too thin to actually perform correction.
Arm pressure and arm speed - How hard and how fast
DA speed - Don't be afraid to speed up for correction.
Diminishing abrasives - Before class = WTF
now = Ahhhh that's how that works and how long I should work product to get benefits and not leave micromarring. 
When to let product dry and when not to
This list could go on and on. The important thing to remember is this list is different for everybody based on our own individual bad habits. Everybody in the class that has a DA and has used it had a different item that we said "I am not doing it that way"
I happened to go with a couple of Mustang car clubs Wickedstangs and San Diego Black Mustang Club. If you ever wanted to go to a perfect class to learn about correction go when there is a stable of black Mustangs to choose from. There were some REALLY nice cars a couple of notible's were a newer black Shelby GT500 that is a great car but was sooo filthy I would have been embarrassed to drive it in public. If Carroll would have been there he would have snatched the keys from the owner and slapped the Chit out of him. There was also a new Roush 427R and several other nice cars.
I just want the elders to know I still hate them. Now not have I only spent a bunch of money on this silly car cleaning stuff I am spending my Saturday at a freaking detailing class. Hmmmm I need to sign up for the advanced class.
Well today I am going to put it to good use. I am tackling the worst car I know. My father in-law is a race horse trainer and his Avalon is always muddy and covered in bird bombs from being at the backside (barns) at the local tracks (Santa Anita,Hollywood Park etc...) How silly is a 40 year old guy going to his father in law saying I am going to wash your car. I will post pics with my best results without rotary.
RP - Mike says hi and hope's everything is well with you.
I would recommend this class to all new OCDr's. I read, read and read through the forum sticky and lurked this forum for the past couple of months. I made the plunge and payed a visit to Rick at ADS and picked up some equipment and supplies. I picked up #9, #80, #83, NXT 2.0 set, CCS pads, G100 Medium large clay kit, Hyperdressing, Plast-X and a few other odds and ends. (Getting a grit guard this week). I tackled my truck and wife's car and ended up with really good results. BUT I still was very apprehensive and was questioning my technique for a couple or reasons like too much work removing polish, light scratches not really coming out etc... This was to give info for my reason to sign up for the class. Meg's is 45 minutes away from where I live. What would I have to lose if it was a sales pitch?
Review starts now - First and most important Mike is a great instructor who knows his product line, knows his business and is very clear about the abilities and limitations of the products and equipment. This was very informative.
The first half of the class is classroom presentation discussing Megs history. Then goes into types of paint systems, products, equipment, correction and appearance enhancement. While this was a class that was given by and paid for by Meg's and it revolved around their products (Which I would expect) it was not a 8 hour sales pitch. It was defiantly a class based on instruction, product and equipment selection and technique.
Even though I had read through and tried to use the techniques in the detailing guide I was able to learn what the "Elders" were saying. A few of the bullet points for me were
Work area size - Smaller- Smaller - Smaller during the correction and cleaning stages.
Thin Thin Thin - What is thin - What is too thin to actually perform correction.
Arm pressure and arm speed - How hard and how fast
DA speed - Don't be afraid to speed up for correction.
Diminishing abrasives - Before class = WTF
now = Ahhhh that's how that works and how long I should work product to get benefits and not leave micromarring. When to let product dry and when not to
This list could go on and on. The important thing to remember is this list is different for everybody based on our own individual bad habits. Everybody in the class that has a DA and has used it had a different item that we said "I am not doing it that way"
I happened to go with a couple of Mustang car clubs Wickedstangs and San Diego Black Mustang Club. If you ever wanted to go to a perfect class to learn about correction go when there is a stable of black Mustangs to choose from. There were some REALLY nice cars a couple of notible's were a newer black Shelby GT500 that is a great car but was sooo filthy I would have been embarrassed to drive it in public. If Carroll would have been there he would have snatched the keys from the owner and slapped the Chit out of him. There was also a new Roush 427R and several other nice cars.
I just want the elders to know I still hate them. Now not have I only spent a bunch of money on this silly car cleaning stuff I am spending my Saturday at a freaking detailing class. Hmmmm I need to sign up for the advanced class.
Well today I am going to put it to good use. I am tackling the worst car I know. My father in-law is a race horse trainer and his Avalon is always muddy and covered in bird bombs from being at the backside (barns) at the local tracks (Santa Anita,Hollywood Park etc...) How silly is a 40 year old guy going to his father in law saying I am going to wash your car. I will post pics with my best results without rotary.
RP - Mike says hi and hope's everything is well with you.
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Date: January 19th, 2008
Time: 8:00am to 3:00pm
Place: Meguiar's Inc
Street: 17991 Mitchell South
City/State: Irvine, CA 92614
Time: 8:00am to 3:00pm
Place: Meguiar's Inc
Street: 17991 Mitchell South
City/State: Irvine, CA 92614
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How often do they do this? Irvine is right around the corner from my aunt's house...
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Here are the before and afters for the worst car I know. Not very good after shots it was dark out. Love that Hyperdressing. Car has 170k and is driven in the mud gravel and dirt 7 days a week and is washed once a year tops. It was murder to get it to this level. I had him take it to local car wash before I got ahold of it for time reasons and all of the mud would have been all over their driveway if I would have pressure washed it.
FWIW this is with Clay, #83, #9, NXT 2.0.
Enginge was twice simple green at 2:1 then low pressure rinse and then Hyper Dressing.
Avalon Detail
P.S. How do you post pics that show up not link. Although the link is nice so they don't have to load for anybody that does not car to look.
FWIW this is with Clay, #83, #9, NXT 2.0.
Enginge was twice simple green at 2:1 then low pressure rinse and then Hyper Dressing.
Avalon Detail
P.S. How do you post pics that show up not link. Although the link is nice so they don't have to load for anybody that does not car to look.
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Originally Posted by bangingd
P.S. How do you post pics that show up not link. Although the link is nice so they don't have to load for anybody that does not car to look.
When you're in that gallery (non-logged in and uploading), there's a Forum Code button... click that (while looking at an individual photo). Copy the text. Paste the text in your post... Post.