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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Thanks for the info Boss, now I guess I can help my dad put a coat or carnauba over the NXT on the Studebaker.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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what is a good carnuba wax that doesnt have a lot of cleaners and solvents. i have used meguiars in the past and have been happy with them.
It depends which Meguiar's product you are using. Their Hi-Tech Yellow wax (#26) is low in cleaning ability, and is a good choice for a topper. Their Deep Crystal Carnauba is also fairly low in cleaning ability, and therefore a good choice too.

Anthing that say "cleaner wax" is obviously a bad choice as a topper.

Keep in mind that liguid waxes tend to have a bit higher solvent content than paste waxes... not always, but usually. I always prefer a paste wax when topping, unless the liquid wax specifies that it has no cleaners. Even then, I tend to test my products to see how much (if any) permanent marker mark they remove from a test panel that I keep laying around... but that's just me!

A lot of folks here have used #26 over NXT with excellent result. I currently use Mother's new Top Coat (no cleaners) over Synwax with equally excellent results.

Some other carnauba waxes I've used that are low in cleaning ability are... Pinnacle Souveran, Poorboy's Natty's wax, One Grand Blitz and several others.

I've also used Trade Secret and Victoria Red Wax paste waxes, which are also good carnauba's, but they have a touch more cleaning ability than I prefer... for layering. Mother's Pure Carnauba Gold in liquid version also has a bit more cleaning ability than I prefer... again, for layering.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Thanks for the info Boss, now I guess I can help my dad put a coat or carnauba over the NXT on the Studebaker.
Nice... what kind of "Studie" does your dad have? I use to have one.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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A lot of folks here have used #26 over NXT with excellent result.
Let's not forget to pay homage to the late/great #16.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Let's not forget to pay homage to the late/great #16.
RP,

I was going to mention #16, but I don't know if it is still available for folks to purchase?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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RP,

I was going to mention #16, but I don't know if it is still available for folks to purchase?

It's not. All gone... unless you search the right places... muhahaha! I love that stuff!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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I am curious about what ingredients in a Carnuba wax would be considered "cleaners", or how to tell if the Carnuba I use (Malco Flash) is OK over a syn?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
It's not. All gone... unless you search the right places... muhahaha! I love that stuff!
Word has it that you've cornered the market on the remaining supply of #16.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by baroy
I am curious about what ingredients in a Carnuba wax would be considered "cleaners", or how to tell if the Carnuba I use (Malco Flash) is OK over a syn?
baroy,

The only way to really tell is to try it. If, while you are using it, you see the applicator, or removal towel getting a little dirty, or off color, chances are that it has cleaners or high solvent content. Of course, if your paint is perfectly clean and polished, this can be difficult.

Again, I have a painted test panel that I use to test by applying a permanent marker line on the panel, and then apply the product to see if it removes any part of the line. Various products have removed various degrees of the permanent marker. Some completely remove it in one easy swipe. Some barely touch it... and others fall in-between

There are also some obvious hints too. If the product claims that it cleans and shines, or polishes and shines... it has cleaners (or abrasives) that will remove products underneath.

I'm not familiar with your Malco product, so I can't advise. However, I do find that most liquid waxes (not all) have a pretty high solvent content that will do some cleaning.

Lastly, keep in mind that a product that has some cleaning ability is not a bad thing... it just doesn't allow one to really "layer" products to any extent. When you consider that most products can only be layered to a small extent, it isn't that big a deal.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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However, I do find that most liquid waxes (not all) have a pretty high solvent content that will do some cleaning.
Hope this helps.
Interesting - does this mean that products like Meguiar's DC #3, or #26 also have solvents? I didn't think they did, but I could be mistaken. Well, I guess something has to evaporate...
 
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_04Roush
Interesting - does this mean that products like Meguiar's DC #3, or #26 also have solvents? I didn't think they did, but I could be mistaken. Well, I guess something has to evaporate...
Mike, the solvents in #3 and #26 (liquid) seem to be pretty mild, with little cleaning ability. They are decent products to layer over a sealant.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Nice... what kind of "Studie" does your dad have? I use to have one.
1964 Avanti R2
 
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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I've been in the old Studie factory up in South Bend... talk about an environmental HELL-HOLE... lots of ongoing issues there. Big place though...
 
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MJN
1964 Avanti R2
Nice! Was it supercharged?

I had a 62' Gran Turisimo, and my friend had a 59' Golden Hawk... neat cars!
 
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