I can't believe you folks use this. This is automotive paint. One thing it isn't, is durable; It's not designed for this; it's designed for high-volume bodyshops. It's mixed 3 to 1 with an activator and applied over basecoat to complete a two stage paintjob. It orange peels easy but it also block sands VERY easily to smooth out a paint job. In fact, Here's a link to a fiero I cleared with dupont nason last summer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...Picture010.jpg

It hasn't been sanded yet, but you get the point.

Many people (myself included) think sprayons are a horrid idea. If you absolutely must get one don't have someone stir in automotive paint (like dupont nason) with that liner mix--they aren't compatible with one another, regardless of what you've been told. You're going to eventually get something that has a chalky or milky appearance that probably is as porous as a sponge.

-Fatz

 

Everyone is intitled to their own opinion.

Well, the LINE-X franchise guy who has been around the longest has been using this technique for over 10 years. It works great. We're not painting cars, pal. We are using it with polyurethane/polyurea. It probably works well because Nason Ful-thane is a urethane product, just like the bedliner. Personally, I have NEVER had a LINE-X color match with Nason been returned with a problem, ever.

The Nason is mixed with reducer (thinner) and a catalyst (speeds drying time), that's it.

Ford Arizona Beige color match:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ArizBeige1.jpg

Jeep Cherokee, entire exterior with red & black LINE-X (and Nason):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../cherokee2.jpg


From Dupont:
Nason
Paint products that deliver quality jobs in a hurry, at a price superior to any cost-competitive brand. Count on Nason for value-priced undercoats and clears, plus a verstile array of color mixing options and factory-packaged colors.
Benefits and Uses
Ideal for simple, cost limited work. Nason delivers history of quality and reliability, fast and easy-to-use products, superior appearance, Ful-Base multi-leg color mixing system, factory packaged color systems, excellent profit potential, simple collision paint repair products, and value positioned fleet/commercial products.

 

There inlies the problem.

You're using it for something it wasn't designed for. You don't understand the nature of the materials you're messing with or you wouldn't be doing it.

Please, please, please don't spray that it unless you've got the proper respirator and ventilation. Otherwise, you're sending yourself or your employees to an early grave.

Wow.

-Fatz

 

Ive been painting for a while, my grandfather owned a shop for 50+ years... and ive never heard of an issue with mixing products of the same base. Oil, laquer, urethane, etc... but that said, i dont think they are talking about MIXING the stuff, i think he is talking about shooting/rolling the bedliner, then spraying the paint on after its dried to give it a finish. That about sum it up? or am i mis construing what they really meant by it? personally? i wouldnt mix anything into the bedliner material just because i would be afraid of diluting the material, and ending up with a really crappy surface.... think of it like this, it dries... but like a thin rubber compound that if something sharp grabs it, will tear up like a hefty bag. Or maybe it just wouldnt stick at all... or maybe it wouldnt even dry, and you would be left with the task of scraping a bunch of crap that looks like caked on oil out of your truck bed.... or even worse.. what if it dried TOO much... next thing you know your bedliner looks like the mojave desert... splits and cracks and chunks missing... so hard that when you step inside the bed or put cargo in that you can hear it crushing beneath you... dont mess the the chemical compound... but i could see spraying it with something designed to have flex just to keep the finish looking good, but damn... if your doing work that heavy as to rip it apart or cause it to fade or lose color, maybe putting a plastic bed mat would solve a lot of issues with pre mature wearing, or you can do what im going to do and use both the herculiner AND a plastic bedliner but if its that big of a deal to stick with one type of bed liner, and you are doing serious hauling, you should just stick with the fact that its a work truck, and the bed will never be 100% just my $0.02

 

You do-it-yourselfers need this vital safety message.

It is as crucial today as it was four years ago...

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...5&page=1&pp=20

 

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

I have been working on cars for several years now, and with ALL of the contaminants and substances and oils and fuels and degreasers and conditioners and every other substance i can think of that goes into servicing/repairing/reviving a car, i have pissed many loads off in my day during my endeavors... and not once have i managed to put something on my "hootus".... and if it did get there, didnt take but 2 seconds and some ivory soap to get off.... here is my thoughts on the situation, this guy should be more worried about his hands than his "hootus".... i mean look at it this way, im sure he didnt cake his "thing" with herculiner, must be a small spot or something, which means that his hands are probably drenched in the crap.... and if he cant get a spot off his yolo how the hell is he gonna live with a permanent glove of herculiner on his hand?

here is how i would deal with it.... LET IT RIDE HOMIE!!!! LOL skin has a way of shedding itself every day... all day long... over time, any skin that has come into contact with a substance is going to flake off and leave dry clean skin underneath... why you think after a week or so the oil that gets in your fingerprints from working on a car goes away without even scrubbing it? part of the natural cycle... nothing will stay permanently bonded to your hand... or anything else.... all things must pass

 

also, i just went to herculiners website, and read up on the installation......... if i could have counted how many times i read the word "Xylene" i probably woulda lost count after 200.... they EXPRESSLY forbid diluting herculiner with ANYTHING except for Xylene.... so if someone was thinking of diluting it with paint to preserve the finish (which i honestly doubt anyone suggested) i am now giving you the tip... to NOT DO THAT lol from what their website suggests, Xylene dilutes it very well. and i wouldnt doubt if it could be used for taking bedliner off your "****" if necessary.... if it could handle the solvant LOL (doubtful) but the preparation doesnt look TOO harsh, just clean it with TSP, scuff it with the provided scotch brite pad and some "Xylene" and your ready to go from what he shows, you arent supposed to take the paint off the bed... lol just scuff it... like you would before painting