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Quintin 06-23-2007 12:07 PM

How to replace rear axle seals and bearings in your 04+ F150 (lots of pics)
 
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I was changing the oil in my truck earlier last week and saw that my right rear axle seal was leaking. So I figured what the hell, I'll do a how-to thread for replacing axle seals and bearings. While this was specifically done on a 2004 F150 with a 9.75 axle, 8.8s are very similar.

First thing's first, the parts:
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Front row, from left to right - the axle seals themselves (p/n 5L3Z-1S177-AB, about $6.05/ea), the axle bearings (p/n 5L3Z-1225-AA, about $67.00/ea), and for limited slip differentials, one bottle of friction modifier (p/n XL-3, about $10.00) and four quarts of 75W140 gear oil.

Tools used:
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You may or may not have access to an air compressor, so disregard the air tools in that picture if you don't. This can all be done with hand tools, it'll just take a little longer. You'll want a breaker bar and a 21mm socket for removing the wheels; a 10mm socket or ratchet wrench for removing the calipers; a BFH for beating the rotors off (if necessary, mine just slid off) and for beating the new bearings and seals in; a 6 point (more on why a 6 point later) 3/8" wrench or socket; a 13mm socket for removing the bolts that hold the rear axle cover on; a couple of standard prybars; a rolling head prybar; and a slide hammer and axle bearing puller. In the red case is a set of bearing and seal drivers - not absolutely necessary, but nice to have.

First of course, you've got to get your truck in the air.
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Important safety tip guys: If you're doing this in your driveway, secure your truck. You're gonna be underneath 2-1/2+ tons of vehicle, I don't want to see anyone get hurt. Good jack stands in the rear, and chock the wheels in the front. Continued in next post...

Quintin 06-23-2007 12:12 PM

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With your truck securely lifted, you're gonna want to pop the trans into neutral so you can spin the pinion around, and pull the rear wheels off. Once the rear wheels are off, you're gonna need to remove the brakes. The calipers are held on with two 10mm bolts as shown in this picture:
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Remove those bolts, and the calipers. Next, pull the rotors (you may have to whack the face of 'em with a hammer to get them to break loose) and now you've gotta go underneath the truck.
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The right seal was the only one leaking in mine, but I replaced them both and the axle bearings while I was in there. Okay, next you need to remove the rear axle cover.
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There's twelve 13mm bolts holding it on. You'll probably have to remove the clamp holding the rear brake line in place on the rear axle housing on top of the housing (one 13mm bolt) to get enough room to get a socket on one of the top most rear axle cover bolts.

Quintin 06-23-2007 12:17 PM

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The sealant holding the cover on is pretty hard stuff. I hammered a putty knife in between the cover and housing to get the seal to break. Don't forget to have a drain pan under the pumpkin before you finally get the cover off. I recommend leaving one of the top bolts in a couple of turns while you're breaking the cover loose too, that way it won't fall all of a sudden into a pan full of gear oil, making a big mess. After the axle is drained, remove the cover and set it aside.
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With the rear axle cover off, you're now gonna want to rotate the pinion flange around to get to the pinion shaft retaining bolt, as shown below:
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This bolt is loctited in from the factory, so sometimes it can be kinda tough to get out. Hence why I recommended earlier to use a good six point socket or wrench on this bolt. It's a 3/8, and you may have to use a prybar wedged against the carrier/ring gear to get enough leverage to get it to break loose, like the picture below:
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Quintin 06-23-2007 12:21 PM

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After removing the pinion shaft retaining bolt, you're gonna want to slide the pinion shaft out towards you. Sometimes this shaft will fall right out after removing the bolt. Once the shaft is out, go to either side of the truck and push the wheel flanges straight in. This'll allow you to remove the C-clips so you can pull the axle shaft out of the housing.
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Once the C-clip is out on one side, repeat on the other, then pull the axle shafts straight out.
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Once the axle shafts are out, I like to reinstall the pinion shaft and start the bolt a couple turns so the spider gears don't turn while I'm doing other things. If the spiders turn without the axle shafts in the carrier, they can be a bitch to get lined back up, especially with a limited slip axle.
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Quintin 06-23-2007 12:24 PM

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Okay, now you're ready to snatch the axle seals out. There's a variety of special pullers you can buy/borrow to remove the seal, but I've found that a big rolling head prybar works best. Insert the hooked end of the prybar like so...
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Then pull the bar outwards and forwards...
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And huzzah! The seal is out.
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If all you're gonna replace is the axle seal(s), you don't have to go any further. Use a rag to wipe up the excess axle oil and junk around the axle tube and beat the new seal in with a hammer. If you're gonna go ahead and replace the axle bearings, keep on reading:

Quintin 06-23-2007 12:28 PM

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You'll need a special puller and a slide hammer to remove the axle bearing.
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The end of the puller hooks behind the bearing, then you tighten the nut up against the puller and start wailing away with the slide hammer. Note - I have yet to find an axle bearing puller that fits the 9.75 just right. You may not be able to find one either, if not, use the next smallest size. Sometimes the cage may come apart using the smaller puller, if so, no big deal, a three jaw puller can be installed that'll get the rest of the bearing race out. After the bearing it out, look down the tube to be sure no rollers from the bearing is still in there, then clean up the area where the bearing and seal goes with brake cleaner and some rags.
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Here's a picture of the bearing puller installed. Note how there's still a gap around the black washer where you can see the rollers in the bearing. That's not how it should be, and I'm still on the search for a proper 9.75" axle bearing puller.
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Ideally, this is how the bearing should come out.

Quintin 06-23-2007 12:32 PM

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Okay, with the bearing out, now it's time to go back together. Clean the tube up a little, and start the new bearing with a few light taps with a hammer. I like to put a little clean gear oil on the rollers of the new bearing before installing, but it doesn't really matter.
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If you have access to a race and bearing driver, now's the time to use it. It'll take a 2.83" adapter to drive the bearings in. If you don't have a bearing driver, no problem, just use the old bearing on top of the new one to drive it home. You'll definitely hear a distinct sound and feel when the bearing is finally bottomed out, it'll look something like this:
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Now with the bearing installed, it's time to install the new seal. You can use your bearing/race driver to install the seal, but I normally just walk them in with a hammer.
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Quintin 06-23-2007 12:41 PM

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Oh yeah, while you've got the axle(s) out, inspect the portion of the shaft where the bearing rides for any pitting or damage. If any is found, the axle must be replaced. Mine look okay.
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Okay, just like the book says, "reverse order of disassembly to assemble." Remove the pinion shaft retaining bolt and shaft and slide the axles into the housing so they engage with the carrier. This may take a little fiddling to get. About the C-clips...
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Notice how that clip has a wear groove in it? With C-clips, it probably doesn't really matter, but with axles in general I like putting things exactly back where and how they came from. This groove faces away from the wheel when the C-clip is installed.
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Quintin 06-23-2007 12:43 PM

To be continued when I get home...

Droog 06-23-2007 01:07 PM

Fantastic how-to so far

:coffee:

Josiah 06-23-2007 01:15 PM

Very nice quintin, thanks a lot for the details. What does a seal & bearing replacement cost at the dealer? I'm guessing it starts somewhere around an arm and maybe up to a leg. I will end up doing this on my buddy's Dana 60 soon.

SVT Pilot 06-23-2007 01:43 PM

Nice write-up. Autozone rents the slide hammer/puller if someone doesn't have access to one. I was suprised to see the drum brake looking assembly in your later pics. That must be the e-brake I assume?

ThumperMX113 06-23-2007 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by SVT Pilot
Nice write-up. Autozone rents the slide hammer/puller if someone doesn't have access to one. I was suprised to see the drum brake looking assembly in your later pics. That must be the e-brake I assume?

Yup, thats the E-Brake assembly.

Quintin 06-23-2007 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Josiah
Very nice quintin, thanks a lot for the details. What does a seal & bearing replacement cost at the dealer? I'm guessing it starts somewhere around an arm and maybe up to a leg. I will end up doing this on my buddy's Dana 60 soon.

Be advised, a Dana 60 is a different animal than a 9.75" Ford. What I've done so far in this thread won't really apply to the 60.

InCuBuS 06-23-2007 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Josiah
Very nice quintin, thanks a lot for the details. What does a seal & bearing replacement cost at the dealer? I'm guessing it starts somewhere around an arm and maybe up to a leg. I will end up doing this on my buddy's Dana 60 soon.

i had this done but i was under extended warranty so it only cost me 100 bucks

Quintin 06-23-2007 02:10 PM

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Okay, with the C-clips in, pull the axles straight out until the C-clip is sitting flush with the spider gears, kinda like the one on the right in this picture. Don't worry, you'll know when you've got it all the way in; the pinion shaft won't go in unless the C-clips and axle shafts are fully seated.
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Install the pinion shaft. The book will say you're supposed to replace the pinion shaft retaining bolt...the only time I replace them is if I stripped one out on removal or I'm replacing the ring and pinion since a new gearset comes with a new pin anyways. Clean the pin threads with brake cleaner, and clean the threads in the carrier with brake cleaner. Put a dab of blue loctite on the pin threads (not red or green!) and torque it to 22 ft/lbs.
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It's all downhill from here. Take the differential cover and clean it up. If you've got access to an air compressor and a die grinder, that's the easiest and fastest way, but a razor blade and/or a wire brush will work too. It doesn't have to be clean enough to eat off, just make sure you get any big blobs of sealer off the surface of the cover where it meets the axle housing.
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I've seen some folks get real carried away with RTV sealer. A little goes a long way here, guys. I install the cover immediately upon applying the sealer. Torque the cover bolts to 24 ft/lbs.

Quintin 06-23-2007 02:15 PM

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Here's the cover installed. Don't forget to put your axle ID tags back on a couple of the cover bolts.
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Now we've gotta fill the axle back up. First, remove the fill plug. It'll be on the driver's side of the axle housing, and it's a 3/8" square drive. Get a pretty long pull handle if you can, sealer was applied to the plug from the factory and sometimes they can be a bear to get out.
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It'll take just a bit over three quarts of fluid. Fill it 'till the fluid is just at the bottom of the fill hole. If you've got a limited slip axle, there's an easier way to add the friction modifier than through the fill hole...
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I remove the ABS sensor (it's held in with one 10mm bolt) and use a small funnel to dump the modifier in. Be advised - friction modifier smells like death. Seriously. Don't get a drop of that crap on you. It doesn't come out easily.

Quintin 06-23-2007 02:19 PM

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And finally, last thing to check especially with an axle seal leak is to be sure that the axle vent tube is not restricted. A blockage in the vent tube will allow pressure to build up in the axle housing, blowing seals out.
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I hope this helps someone. From start to finish on this job, including time to take pictures, goof off with my co-workers and running back and forth between parts was about three hours. On a scale of 1-10, this one's about a five in regards to difficulty, or a 4 if you're replacing just the axle seals and not the bearings. Definitely something you can do in your driveway with a few basic hand tools.

Next how to...um, rear brakes and/or disassembly and lubing of the driveshaft slip yoke, depending on which one I get to first.

khendrix2374 06-23-2007 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Quintin
Be advised - friction modifier smells like death. Seriously. Don't get a drop of that crap on you. It doesn't come out easily.


You're darn right. Makes me cringe thinking about.

Stealth 06-23-2007 02:50 PM

Nice thread and writeup, Quintin. It's good to have mechanics like you around to show us the right way. :D

bigtruck311 06-23-2007 03:30 PM

good how too thread, nice pics:thumbsup:

SAJEFFC 06-23-2007 05:58 PM

Great writeup Quintin! You made it look easy enough for any of us to do it. Now maybe a quick tranny teardown article? :D :lol: j/k

ieee_raider 06-23-2007 06:26 PM

For those asking how much...

I had mine done at a local shop. They're not the cheapest in the area, but the ones I trust the most.

These are the prices they quoted me:
$175: Replace one seal
$275: Replace both seals
$430: Replace both seals and bearings

Ilovemyford 06-23-2007 08:53 PM

great write up

Ilovemyford 06-23-2007 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by ieee_raider
For those asking how much...

I had mine done at a local shop. They're not the cheapest in the area, but the ones I trust the most.

These are the prices they quoted me:
$175: Replace one seal
$275: Replace both seals
$430: Replace both seals and bearings

How many miles before someone has to replace the seals and the bearings?

Quintin 06-23-2007 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ilovemyford
How many miles before someone has to replace the seals and the bearings?

I had 54K miles on mine before an axle seal started leaking.

I've got over 170K miles on my dad's '97 F250 LD and I've never gone into the axle in it. Figure that one out.

ThumperMX113 06-23-2007 11:40 PM

Quintin, excellent write up. I'm sure this will help someone. :thumbsup:

Tbird69 06-24-2007 12:26 AM

Good job Quintin.:thumbsup: Now people will understand why a job like this costs so much.

ieee_raider 06-24-2007 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by Ilovemyford
How many miles before someone has to replace the seals and the bearings?

Mine were leaking on one side after 39000 miles.
I had both seals replaced.

Screw-Me-05 06-24-2007 03:13 AM

Excellent writeup.......:thumbsup: looking forward to the next ones

artgarcia 06-25-2007 12:50 AM

Great write up!
 
Thanks for take the time to register step by step and sher with us. I'll wait for the yoke lub work.

-TXF150- 06-25-2007 03:13 AM

Nice writw up quintin.. On a side note, One of the guys in our shop has the same 1/2 impact as you, and I cant stand the way it sounds... :lol:

Quintin 06-25-2007 10:35 AM

Thanks everyone. :)


Originally Posted by -TXF150-
Nice writw up quintin.. On a side note, One of the guys in our shop has the same 1/2 impact as you, and I cant stand the way it sounds... :lol:

It's a strange sounding bird, that's for sure, but when it's working right, it's a bad mofo. Too bad I've had to send mine back three times already. :smoke:

etrevino103186 06-25-2007 11:41 AM

do they make a noise when they are going out?

Quintin 06-25-2007 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by etrevino103186
do they make a noise when they are going out?

The bearings, yes.

The seals, no (unless you're getting gear oil onto your brakes, which could cause a brake noise).

etrevino103186 06-26-2007 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Quintin
The bearings, yes.

The seals, no (unless you're getting gear oil onto your brakes, which could cause a brake noise).

What kind of noise is it? I have a noise that I can't describe... Did you see my thread Quintin

Quintin 06-26-2007 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by etrevino103186
What kind of noise is it? I have a noise that I can't describe... Did you see my thread Quintin

A roaring type noise. And no, I didn't catch your thread. Link?

etrevino103186 06-26-2007 08:21 AM

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=290674

my truck is in the shop right now. they say the gears are fine, I need to get new brakes but he doesn't think that is causing the noise...:confused:

mkoob 03-27-2008 12:25 AM

Anybody know what happened to the photos in this post? They didn't load for me.

wrench007 03-27-2008 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by mkoob
Anybody know what happened to the photos in this post? They didn't load for me.

Probably deleted them from his photo album.


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