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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Well I dont want to be taking any chances with anything illegal


What is a good mod I could do for $200 or less?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Crazy idea, but is it possible to run the HID kit but modify your bright setup to use the old halogen standard output (so you could switch back and forth easily??)
 
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by migdaddy
the real xenon bulbs and ballasts use xenon gas (Lexus, BMW, Mercedes), which is extremely expensive. it was a $2000 option on my girlfriends audi A4. totally worth it.
D2S bulbs can be had for $50, now. BMW, Lexus, and Mercedes are charging an arm and a leg, just for the option, just because they can and people will still buy it. Doing a retrofit costs anywhere from $300-$1000 and that's because of all the extra work and parts involved introducing foreign parts into stock headlights. In the end, the results are just as good as the 3 companies above and maintenance will just be the cost of bulbs. Real D2S bulbs will last roughly 2000 hours of useful light, so I've heard them lasting 3-4 years. After that, they dim to a really useless level and then die.

As a thought, it isn't just Xenon gas in them. D2S bulbs have a salt mixture inside them that give them their colour and brightness. As the electrical arc flows, the bulb heats up. This in turn, heats up and liquefies the salts, turning them into a plasma. From HIDPlanet:

What are some of the salts used in HID bulbs

Common Salts and their colors for HID
Sodium Iodide - White
Thallium Iodide - yellow crystals that become red at 170oC
Scandium Iodide - yellow powder
Dysprosium Iodide - deep yellow powder
Indium Iodide - deep red-brown color
Mercury Iodide - Yellow
The last one may or may not be added, but it may form due to the presence of iodide from the other salts.

More rare salts:
Cerium Iodide-Yellow
Neodymium Iodide - Green
Holmium Iodide - yellow
Erbium Iodide - Pink
Thulium Iodide - Yellow
Gadolinium Iodide - yellow
Ytterbium Iodide - yellow

Which are the most common salts?
The main salts in 4300K bulbs are Scandium Iodide and Sodium Iodide, Dysprosium Iodide is also added to some bulbs. While in higher temperature bulbs, more Indium Iodide is used. This is what gives the salts in those bulbs their red color. It also is really expensive and hazardous to use, which is what gives them their cost.

The exact mixture of salts is unknown, as each company has its own proprietary formula. Trace salts can be added to flesh out the spectrum some, improving CRI.
Just to add a little more knowledge to the HID scene.
 
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