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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Ok the kit COMES with HID bulbs, not the ballast and all that other sh*t that gives you the color temperature you want. I also don't know how to angle the lights down yet which I need to do because of my lifted truck. If I had 6000k or 8000k or something like that I would definitely blind people without having the lights pointed down. The people at K2 said I'm able to point them down but I can't figure it out...
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NoLongerJeepin
So you don't have an HID kit?



I do not have an HID kit. I have HID H1 bulbs. The kit comes with a ballast connected to the bulbs and all that good stuff. I just have the bulbs that would come with the HID kit.
http://www.k2motor.com/lhp-f15004jmb-tm.html

There you go everyone just look at the item description itself.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kkelso
I do not have an HID kit. I have HID H1 bulbs. The kit comes with a ballast connected to the bulbs and all that good stuff. I just have the bulbs that would come with the HID kit.
http://www.k2motor.com/lhp-f15004jmb-tm.html

There you go everyone just look at the item description itself.
And to quote myself, I don't know why they say on the website that you can upgrade to HID when it says on the assembly to not use HID?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Ok, you don't have any type of HID kit, bulb or anything HID related. You have halogen bulbs in those things. HID bulbs will not work without a ballast. You might have the cheap "HID imitation" bulbs that are painted blue.

It's fine to use HIDs in them, the HID kit draws less power and runs cooler. Just make sure the HID bulb, which is longer then the Halogen, fits in the projector housing before getting a kit
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NoLongerJeepin
Ok, you don't have any type of HID kit, bulb or anything HID related. You have halogen bulbs in those things. HID bulbs will not work without a ballast. You might have the cheap "HID imitation" bulbs that are painted blue.

It's fine to use HIDs in them, the HID kit draws less power and runs cooler. Just make sure the HID bulb, which is longer then the Halogen, fits in the projector housing before getting a kit
The dude from the company said they would be compatible with the HID kit so I'm guessing they will fit.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kkelso
The dude from the company said they would be compatible with the HID kit so I'm guessing they will fit.
There information sounds very misinterpreting. Im interested in getting these in black. Have you taken the bulbs out, can you get a picture of them?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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There information sounds very misinterpreting. Im interested in getting these in black. Have you taken the bulbs out, can you get a picture of them?
I will do that asap
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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OK to clear some things up here.


The Good:

Yes you can get an H1 HID kit and put in there, provided the bulb actually fits within the projector.


The Bad:
However, the melting can occur if the bulb is too close to the lens. even though they run cooler than an standard bulb. Also these are halogen projectors which will not focus the light like an HID projector will. It will have a nice cutoff though.

I had Halo Projectors on my Dodge Ram before I totaled it and Ran H1 HIDs in them without any problems for over a year, but was not very pleased with the light output. Adjusting them is very difficult, Mine were aimed too low and I could never get one side up as high as the other.

OP: To adjust these look at the picture in your link to the lights. On the back side where the projector is you will see 3 long threaded bolts sticking out. these are your up/down left/right adjustments. You will need to play with them to figure out which one is which. More than likely this will require removal and re-installation of the lights several times. Your best bet is to find a level surface and park the truck facing a wall or a car and adjust the lights to the point you want.


Oh and on a side note projectors do not change the color of the light....BUT, the lenses can give a color effect to the cutoff. You will also see more color around the edges of the lenses so if you run 6000k HIDs you will see purple walls off to the side and higer up
 

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLongerJeepin
Ok, you don't have any type of HID kit, bulb or anything HID related. You have halogen bulbs in those things. HID bulbs will not work without a ballast. You might have the cheap "HID imitation" bulbs that are painted blue.

It's fine to use HIDs in them, the HID kit draws less power and runs cooler. Just make sure the HID bulb, which is longer then the Halogen, fits in the projector housing before getting a kit
This is where the melting can occur. Yes it runs cooler but being closer to the lens kinda negates that.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lordfeyr
OK to clear some things up here.


The Good:

Yes you can get an H1 HID kit and put in there, provided the bulb actually fits within the projector.


The Bad:
However, the melting can occur if the bulb is too close to the lens. even though they run cooler than an standard bulb. Also these are halogen projectors which will not focus the light like an HID projector will. It will have a nice cutoff though.

I had Halo Projectors on my Dodge Ram before I totaled it and Ran H1 HIDs in them without any problems for over a year, but was not very pleased with the light output. Adjusting them is very difficult, Mine were aimed too low and I could never get one side up as high as the other.

OP: To adjust these look at the picture in your link to the lights. On the back side where the projector is you will see 3 long threaded bolts sticking out. these are your up/down left/right adjustments. You will need to play with them to figure out which one is which. More than likely this will require removal and re-installation of the lights several times. Your best bet is to find a level surface and park the truck facing a wall or a car and adjust the lights to the point you want.


Oh and on a side note projectors do not change the color of the light....BUT, the lenses can give a color effect to the cutoff. You will also see more color around the edges of the lenses so if you run 6000k HIDs you will see purple walls off to the side and higer up
Dang you really know your stuff I think I will run a H1 6000k an H1 bulb is in there already so it should surely fit.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Dang you really know your stuff I think I will run a H1 6000k an H1 bulb is in there already so it should surely fit.
Go to hidplanet.com and do some research that way you will get exactly what you want. They have forums just like this site full of people who only mod their lights. Mostly civics but still really good info.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kkelso
Dang you really know your stuff I think I will run a H1 6000k an H1 bulb is in there already so it should surely fit.
Thanks! I just happen to have first hand experience with exactly what you are trying to do.

Find the HID plug n play kit that you want and ask the seller to give you the length of the bulb from the base that seats against the housing to the tip. Take one of your bulbs out and stick a stray or pencil in the see how deep the projector is. This way you can know for sure that the bulb will fit in there. The H1 base will fit for sure but its the length that can get you.

HIDPlanet is a good resource on HIDs but be careful there because it is for true hid retrofitters and they will laugh at you for wanting to use a PNP kit.


I use that site for references myself and am actually working on a true retrofit project for my f15 If all goes well I will post up a how to but you are looking at about triple the cost of those projectors you just bought to do it.


Also I know this is a ford forum but here is a picture of my ram with the halo projectors and 6000k hids. This is my first ford so I have no pictures on a ford to show you.

 

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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post some output shots of your projectors and ill tell you if PNP is worth it....

As far as you new lights go, they are ment for halogen bulbs, however....halogen bulbs is with 10-15 degress of HID PNP kits found online...so melting of the projector lens shouldnt be an issue BECAUSE of the heat itself....

HOWEVER, xenon bulbs are longer than out H13 headlight bulbs, which may put it closer to the projector lens than your normal halogen bulb, resulting in higher temps on the lens itself (melting)

You have a few options:

1.Leave as is...enjoy until the horrid light output gets the best of you
2.PNP HID kit...check the distance from your current bulb to the lens and post up here ALONG with output shots 15-25 ft away from a white wall (garage door)

^^^some halogen projector optics do well with hid pnp kits (mazda being one) so it might be worth your while...

3.Retro-since you already have the projector housings...search ebay or send me a pm and find a deal on some HID projectors. Swap out the halogen projector with a OEM HID one and your golden. You will be amazed in the output (using OEM Xenon bulbs)

Like someone said earlier...read up on hidplanet.com for a few months lol and you will see the difference im talking about. LOTS of good info there...

but if your fine how you are then good too...just offering suggestions for you.

Search for users F150DUKE, and HIDPLANET here on f150online.com. They both have true OEM HID retros. Good luck and congrats on your purchase
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by achap

You have a few options:

1.Leave as is...enjoy until the horrid light output gets the best of you
2.PNP HID kit...check the distance from your current bulb to the lens and post up here ALONG with output shots 15-25 ft away from a white wall (garage door)
will do that tonight! keep posted
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lordfeyr
Thanks! I just happen to have first hand experience with exactly what you are trying to do.

Find the HID plug n play kit that you want and ask the seller to give you the length of the bulb from the base that seats against the housing to the tip. Take one of your bulbs out and stick a stray or pencil in the see how deep the projector is. This way you can know for sure that the bulb will fit in there. The H1 base will fit for sure but its the length that can get you.

HIDPlanet is a good resource on HIDs but be careful there because it is for true hid retrofitters and they will laugh at you for wanting to use a PNP kit.


I use that site for references myself and am actually working on a true retrofit project for my f15 If all goes well I will post up a how to but you are looking at about triple the cost of those projectors you just bought to do it.


Also I know this is a ford forum but here is a picture of my ram with the halo projectors and 6000k hids. This is my first ford so I have no pictures on a ford to show you.

looks great! and those are halogen projectors with a HID kit? if so i'll def do that! or are they upgraded projector lenses (retrofit)??? let me know!
 

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