Arc Audio vs Rockford Fosgate
Originally Posted by ranchocucbro
Who started ARC? I think they have something to do with the famous Zapco founders.
Originally Posted by dconder
He designed the new Arc SE4000 too. That thing is incredible. 4,000 watts at 1 ohm. PasMag just tested it.
Oh damn, I didnt even know they were making an SE4000. That would be one mother of an amp
Originally Posted by nothinbutaford
like it makes the amp THAT more important
The founders set the foundation. The current people running the company will either try to maintain or change the direction of the origianal foundation. The current engineers and design team make the biggest difference in the world. Proper engineering and quality control are the reasons you can have high tech CPUs made in low cost South East Asia but engineered by the brightest minds of the USA.
Last edited by torqueaholic; Aug 2, 2007 at 01:04 PM.
Just a quick update:
IT'S FINALLY HERE!


I cannot describe how cool this amp is. I know the sound and power is what matters, but they really REALLY did NOT Skimp on the aesthetic design of the amp.
The two end plates (not pictured because they're still in the foam packing material under the amp) screw onto the ends to hide the wiring; it's truly meant for exhibition style installs. For those installs that don't use the end plates, the short trim plate (shown installed) stops flush with the edges. When the end plates are used, the additionally included longer trim plate slides into place instead, 'tieing in' the unit to the end plates aesthetically. These are both MACHINED ALUMINUM TRIM PLATES. Not cheesy plastic. Yummy. The entire casing is CNC machined aluminum. I can't photograph it, but if you were to look through each end, you'd see that the INSIDE of the aluminum was machined with heat seak fins as well, so that as air is drawn into the unit from below by the fan, it will exit pulling heat from the internal fins. There are also a few external fins machined along one of the long edges.
It's beautiful work. If you ever get a chance to handle/look at a Foose designed FD series Arc Audio amp, DO IT.
E.
IT'S FINALLY HERE!


I cannot describe how cool this amp is. I know the sound and power is what matters, but they really REALLY did NOT Skimp on the aesthetic design of the amp.
The two end plates (not pictured because they're still in the foam packing material under the amp) screw onto the ends to hide the wiring; it's truly meant for exhibition style installs. For those installs that don't use the end plates, the short trim plate (shown installed) stops flush with the edges. When the end plates are used, the additionally included longer trim plate slides into place instead, 'tieing in' the unit to the end plates aesthetically. These are both MACHINED ALUMINUM TRIM PLATES. Not cheesy plastic. Yummy. The entire casing is CNC machined aluminum. I can't photograph it, but if you were to look through each end, you'd see that the INSIDE of the aluminum was machined with heat seak fins as well, so that as air is drawn into the unit from below by the fan, it will exit pulling heat from the internal fins. There are also a few external fins machined along one of the long edges.
It's beautiful work. If you ever get a chance to handle/look at a Foose designed FD series Arc Audio amp, DO IT.
E.
Very Nice....
I'm hung on Eclipse amps, Ice amps that is.... I like them as you can tell...
But, if I was looking to install a power plant of a amp, ARC or Zapco would be it.... I do like Eclipses big power amps, but they are ridiculously over priced at that point.... IMO
I'm hung on Eclipse amps, Ice amps that is.... I like them as you can tell...
But, if I was looking to install a power plant of a amp, ARC or Zapco would be it.... I do like Eclipses big power amps, but they are ridiculously over priced at that point.... IMO
Final Update:
It took a while, but the amp finally arrived last week. Since things got so fouled up though, I did not get a chance to properly fabricate a mount and install it until yesterday.
Cleaned up the wiring today, and did the final vacuuming to clean up the little bits of mess I made, (mdf particles, drill shavings, etc) and took a pic.
So, here's how she looks:

Gotta say, it's a bugger installing an amp THIS big. (footprint is roughly 11" X 19"!) Had to go to 1/4" MDF for the panel to get me max clearance away from seat back foam, and even did a little grinding on the child safety/seat back bar support to get me some 'comfort' room. (on the inboard passenger side vertical support) Also modified the wall liner so that the carpet would be flat against the metal under the MDF. (remove jute from entire mounting area, and cut out most of the 'hump' which normally covers the power window slider motor)
Otherwise, it's AWESOME. And short of a new custom molded carpet backer, it's about as perfectly custom as I'm gonna get. =) (for one afternoon's worth of fabrication that is...)
E.
It took a while, but the amp finally arrived last week. Since things got so fouled up though, I did not get a chance to properly fabricate a mount and install it until yesterday.
Cleaned up the wiring today, and did the final vacuuming to clean up the little bits of mess I made, (mdf particles, drill shavings, etc) and took a pic.
So, here's how she looks:

Gotta say, it's a bugger installing an amp THIS big. (footprint is roughly 11" X 19"!) Had to go to 1/4" MDF for the panel to get me max clearance away from seat back foam, and even did a little grinding on the child safety/seat back bar support to get me some 'comfort' room. (on the inboard passenger side vertical support) Also modified the wall liner so that the carpet would be flat against the metal under the MDF. (remove jute from entire mounting area, and cut out most of the 'hump' which normally covers the power window slider motor)
Otherwise, it's AWESOME. And short of a new custom molded carpet backer, it's about as perfectly custom as I'm gonna get. =) (for one afternoon's worth of fabrication that is...)
E.
Originally Posted by Elmosaurus
Final Update:
It took a while, but the amp finally arrived last week. Since things got so fouled up though, I did not get a chance to properly fabricate a mount and install it until yesterday.
Cleaned up the wiring today, and did the final vacuuming to clean up the little bits of mess I made, (mdf particles, drill shavings, etc) and took a pic.
So, here's how she looks:

Gotta say, it's a bugger installing an amp THIS big. (footprint is roughly 11" X 19"!) Had to go to 1/4" MDF for the panel to get me max clearance away from seat back foam, and even did a little grinding on the child safety/seat back bar support to get me some 'comfort' room. (on the inboard passenger side vertical support) Also modified the wall liner so that the carpet would be flat against the metal under the MDF. (remove jute from entire mounting area, and cut out most of the 'hump' which normally covers the power window slider motor)
Otherwise, it's AWESOME. And short of a new custom molded carpet backer, it's about as perfectly custom as I'm gonna get. =) (for one afternoon's worth of fabrication that is...)
E.
It took a while, but the amp finally arrived last week. Since things got so fouled up though, I did not get a chance to properly fabricate a mount and install it until yesterday.
Cleaned up the wiring today, and did the final vacuuming to clean up the little bits of mess I made, (mdf particles, drill shavings, etc) and took a pic.
So, here's how she looks:

Gotta say, it's a bugger installing an amp THIS big. (footprint is roughly 11" X 19"!) Had to go to 1/4" MDF for the panel to get me max clearance away from seat back foam, and even did a little grinding on the child safety/seat back bar support to get me some 'comfort' room. (on the inboard passenger side vertical support) Also modified the wall liner so that the carpet would be flat against the metal under the MDF. (remove jute from entire mounting area, and cut out most of the 'hump' which normally covers the power window slider motor)
Otherwise, it's AWESOME. And short of a new custom molded carpet backer, it's about as perfectly custom as I'm gonna get. =) (for one afternoon's worth of fabrication that is...)
E.
Looks very nice indeed. So how do you like the amp?
Originally Posted by dconder
Looks very nice indeed. So how do you like the amp?
So far, it's been awesome. OODLES of power. Does exactly what I wanted; full QUALITY sound from all four corners. No Sub needed since I don't listen to rap, and have no desire to rattle the panels of a car two car lengths away.
After another 20-30 hours of break in, I'll get it tuned in better. I figure the sonics will mellow/soften just a tiny bit; if it does, I will use the +3db feature on my tweeters to sharpen things back up just a little. I prefer a slightly more 'articulated crisp' sound for better imaging.
E.
Then just do a small sub it will finish off the audio spectrum. You dont have to listen to just rap to get a good use out of a subwoofer. Go over to a BBY or something and use their boom room to learn what you are missing in your music without one.
Originally Posted by Low_e_Red
Then just do a small sub it will finish off the audio spectrum. You dont have to listen to just rap to get a good use out of a subwoofer. Go over to a BBY or something and use their boom room to learn what you are missing in your music without one.
Originally Posted by Bartak1
Id agree. A set of components just cant do lows that the sub should be taking care of.

E.
Originally Posted by nothinbutaford
I always get a kick out of stuff like this, like it makes the amp THAT more important. If this is true then let me ask you this Who started rockford fosgate? I think he had something to do with the creation of car amplifiers. Oh yeah Jim Fosgate 
Difference is quite some time after Jim merged with RAD creating RockfordFosgate they went mainstream. Sold in every big box store and not quite the quality product he originally set out to make. The same suit didnt follow for Rob and he kept every bit of respect along the way. Did he win and EMMY? No, but does that make the PRODUCT superior or inferior? No.


