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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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OK so I figured out how to get the rear door panel off with some intense searching of this site... Now my problem is that I am a dumbass. I thought that the rear also had a spot to install a component tweeter.. It doesnt! I bought components to put there though... So what would you guys suggest? I dont know that I want to cut my door panels up to put tweeters back there either...
 

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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there is a nifty hole on the passenger side you can run the power wire through. I found a tip in another thread describing it, but its about the size of a nickel and its right where the kickpanel meets the door scuff plate on the passenger side. You have to push the existing wire harness over a bit to see it but you just run your power through there. I used 4 gauge wire and even with the ring terminal connector it fit through no problem. Then route the wire up over the passenger side inner fender and it pops out next to the battery... sweet.

Thats where I always suggest to run the wire too, its so perfect its like Ford planned it.

As for the tweeters, I have no idea, Im not sure what the new Screws interior
provides for mounting options so I couldnt say. Is there enough space between the speaker grille and door panel that the tweeter will fit there. You could make up some mounting thing to hold it there between the 2 panels maybe
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Thats where I always suggest to run the wire too, its so perfect its like Ford planned it.

As for the tweeters, I have no idea, Im not sure what the new Screws interior
provides for mounting options so I couldnt say. Is there enough space between the speaker grille and door panel that the tweeter will fit there. You could make up some mounting thing to hold it there between the 2 panels maybe
Well I got the fropnt components in and they sure sound good. I have not connected them to the amp yet so I am sure its going to get better. Anyways I am thinking of not using the tweeters in the rear components. What do you guys think about this?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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If you dont use the crossover and just hook the mids right to the amp, it MIGHT sound OK. If you use the crossover and just the mid it will sound like poo. Either way your going to be lacking a fair amount of high frequencies, and its going to sound bad. Not to mention once that woofer starts trying to play some of those high frequencies up towards the top of its freq. range, its going to sound worse. I would go with no speakers back there before I just ran the mid.

Can you exchange them for a set of coaxials? That is probably your best bet if you dont want to make any holes.

You can always try running just the mids with no crossover and see if you like it. Or maybe just the mids, and an aftermarket low pass crossover on those mids that filter out the frequencies up high where the mid would start gettin a little sketchy if you know what I mean?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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If you dont use the crossover and just hook the mids right to the amp, it MIGHT sound OK. If you use the crossover and just the mid it will sound like poo. Either way your going to be lacking a fair amount of high frequencies, and its going to sound bad. Not to mention once that woofer starts trying to play some of those high frequencies up towards the top of its freq. range, its going to sound worse. I would go with no speakers back there before I just ran the mid.

Can you exchange them for a set of coaxials? That is probably your best bet if you dont want to make any holes.

You can always try running just the mids with no crossover and see if you like it. Or maybe just the mids, and an aftermarket low pass crossover on those mids that filter out the frequencies up high where the mid would start gettin a little sketchy if you know what I mean?
Yeah it works but it sounds fubar expecially when compared with the front.. I ordered a pair of Infinity 2 ways that should do the trick. So now I have a pair of Infinity 6x8 components I paid $120 for Ill sell then for $80 plus shipping if anyone wants them... rob@4dav.com

I got my XM all wired up this evening and should have everything working tomorrow... Thanks for everyones help on this.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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86 those subs.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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86 those subs.
OK well thanks for the informative post. What subs would you suggest considering you cant seem to pick out any for yourself after reading your other posts. I also need a sub that will fit in a 5.5" deep box that works well with .635 Cubic feet per chamber. I need subs that will handle 1200 watts because thats what I have already. I also want dual voice coils. So let me know if you find something that will do all this and do it for like $80 a sub. Looks like this high excursion 10" woofer will fit the bill...

http://www.audiobahn.com/frame2004.html

Thanks again for the information!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Umm i think its going to be hard to find something for that cheap that eats up power like that. I would wait a little while longer and grab some alpine type r's the 05 models, if they will fit. Or these just came out http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-462 . Sorry i dont know what the mounting depth for these subs are, but i imagine they are somewhere around 5.5. BTW audiobahn is complete garbage.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GA FOO 88
Umm i think its going to be hard to find something for that cheap that eats up power like that. I would wait a little while longer and grab some alpine type r's the 05 models, if they will fit. Or these just came out http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-462 . Sorry i dont know what the mounting depth for these subs are, but i imagine they are somewhere around 5.5. BTW audiobahn is complete garbage.
Ive been getting that a lot. Ill let you know what I think after I get them in... Its funny how my sub and the one you suggest have identical specs but one is considered garbage... I used that same amp to power 3 12W6s and 2 12W6v2s before that so Ill notice if its crap...
 

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Well, you can't base the sound off of specs, so if it sounds good well then it sounds good. I mean my friend has a 10 in a-bahn off 800 watts in a 300ZX and i wasnt impressed, and thats in a .6 sealed enclosure. Personaly, it just didnt get low enough for me, maybe the model you chose will have different results, hopefully. I would add polyfill to that box to add the effect of more internal space to your box. Its just generally subs like a-bahn, pionner, kicker need bigger ported boxes, but you never know, so good luck.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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There can't be any real comparison since who knows how the sub was tuned, how well the box was sealed, etc..... same goes for any "comparison".

A friend had some higher end 10's (Audiobahns) in his Aerostar and they had great SQ, but were quiet and didn't thump too hard. I know for a fact it was his lack of airspace in the boxes, and the settings of the amp and deck.
This contradicts what most people are saying when I was searching for specs on your subs. Most were saying they had no SQ and were only meant for SPL (Audiobahns in general).
Those subs he actually ended up breaking. I believe because he was trying to get too much "thump" out of them, which with the size of boxes he made, they were defintely lacking airspace for more thump.

These should do real good for you. Just adjust everything to your liking, and I am sure you'll be very pleased, which is all that really matters.


BTW, I couldn't see any of the pics on Myspace. I think you need to login to see them..........
 

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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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How do you tune a sub? I think you mean adjust settings,gains,etc. And basically you said the same thing i did, they need big boxes. But its just hard to find a sub for that cheap,with that little of a mounting depth, that likes small sealed boxes. But really, i would just make sure the install goes well and it will do what you want more than likely.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Yup.... Well the install is basically done... I am waiting for my new 2-way 6x8's to replace the components in the rear since there is nowhere for the tweeters. Also I am waiting for the trim ring around my subs so I can get them working too. It looks like that ring actually holds down the edge of the sub's foam so I dont think I should use it till I get the right one.

Otherwise the components are runnning on the 4 channel amp and it sounds sick. The mids and highs are crystal clear and it hits well enough that people thought my sub was working already. Sweet.

The best part was when one of my RCA cables went bad. They were working just fine in my buick and were brand new for that car... I had a friend remove them while I was installing on the truck and he probably didnt take the same care as me. Actually he has also gotten chocolate on my F150's seat and a greasy handprint on the other seat as well. It figures. They both came out with some Oxy clean but I had to beat his **** first. Lucky for me I got some nice new RCAs local for cheap.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GA FOO 88
How do you tune a sub? I think you mean adjust settings,gains,etc. And basically you said the same thing i did, they need big boxes. But its just hard to find a sub for that cheap,with that little of a mounting depth, that likes small sealed boxes. But really, i would just make sure the install goes well and it will do what you want more than likely.

When he says "tune the sub" he is talking about the tuning frequency of the ported box that the sub is in.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Ya but this Robamus's subs are in a sealed enclosure, so there would be no tuning involved. Also the a-bahn sub i was talking about was sealed, and the a-bahn set up he mentioned had small boxes, so im assuming those boxes were sealed. So i really dont see why tuning was involed in what he was saying, unless he was just speaking in general and not about this specific topic. And really the sub isnt tuned, the box is tuned so that the sub plays in a more specific range based on the port area/length.
 

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