Great thread reference! Since it was only pinging near WOT, I figured that I would just fill with 93 octane next fill. I towed my boat today (only 2000 lbs or so) and it definitely pinged when I climbed a little hill before it was fully warmed up (not leaning on the gas). I filled with 93 octane on the way home (32 gallons in the 36 gallon tank) and now it only pings a couple of times when I hit the gas and when it shifts from 2nd to 3rd at WOT. Hopefully when I get my PHP tunes, this won't be a problem any more.

 

You don't understand something. 88Racing decided to replace a monochrome Gryphon with a CTS unit when they were introduced (as did I). We BOTH had PHP Gryphons with custom tunes already. The tunes on the CTS and the Gryphon are identical, so Bill did not have to write anything new. It was a simple matter for Bill to flash those tunes onto the units before sending them out.

But, if you did NOT already have a "tuned" Gryphon when you ordered your CS/CTS, then the tunes have not been written yet. In fact, they can't be written until Bill receives your "hex" (calibration) code from your PCM. Have you sent that to them using the special email link for this purpose on their website?

And, if you are getting pinging using the Edge Level 2 tow tune at WOT, Bill needs to be told about that too, so that he can correct it in your custom tunes. And, let Edge know about it also.

- Jack

 

I have sent in my Hex code (although it isn't actually HEX 0-9,A-F) and told Bill about the pinging.

That makes sense, thank you for clearing this up! On another note, there is some question on whether the PHP CTS reprograms the TCM. My Edge unit did not (as far as I can tell). Did it say that it was programming your TCM when you installed it? My unit flashed the system in about a minute and said that it was programming the ECM. I do not feel any change to the shifting.

 

In 2009 with the introduction of the 6 speed automatic transmission, Ford decided to install 2 controllers in the f150s>>one for the engine and body codes and the other for the transmission.

97-03+04h obs has one pcm for everything.....
04-08 nbs has one pcm for everything.

The 2009+ was new to all the tuners and how they were going about trying to tune both pcms.

The two pcms are seperate but are interlinked and feed off of each others information..........

 

You are absolutely right about the "hex" name. I often wondered about that myself but only came up with "It's an identification for the "machine" code (binary) that is in the EPROM of the programmer". And, since we really don't like to view machine code as an enormous string of 0's and 1's, we convert each 4-bit "nibble" to a "hexadecimal" value. The original Evolutions would show the vehicle calibration as "XXXXXXX.hex", where the "XXXXXXX" was a 7-character string that uniquely identified the stock tune that was loaded. The ".hex" part seemed to be just a file extension that identified it as a binary, "Evolution" file.

The newer CS/CTS programmers call the "XXXXXXX" value a "CalibrationECM", and the ".hex" is not shown at all.

The new 09+ programmers seem to NOT program the TCM. There are several recent threads on this. But, things that Bill does to the PCM's code indirectly effect the TCM, so maybe this is a "back door" approach.

I'm an unapologetic fan of the pre-09 Evolution and Gryphon programmers. Since I don't have an 09+ truck, I have no first hand experience with the new programmers and am trying to remain "neutral".

Diablo and SCT offer alternative platforms, and anyone wanting a programmer for an 09+ truck should definitely find out exactly what they can do (from the manufacturer/tuner).

I should add, if you like the way another programmer works, but really want the "Edge-style" gauges, you can program your truck with another programmer and install an Edge Insight.

- Jack

 

JackandJanet,

SCT is the only one with the custom tuning capabilities for the 09+. Besides PHP's version........Diablo hasn't released theirs yet.

 

While true, this is no excuse for the programmer manufacturers - most/all of which also offer diesel variants of their products.

And Ford diesel trucks have had TCM's for years. It's not a new concept.

Just like the 6R80 six-speeds have been available for years (in Expy's fer example). Again - not a new concept.

It's mind-boogling to me that, with the F150 going on the THIRD year in the 'newer' design, this has still not been sorted. By now there should be NO disparity among the various products in terms of FULL vehicle tuning support.

SCT gets it - that's the message. Choose wisely. It's the TUNING that is the Primary reason for these things - everything else they can do, can be done by other means. (For me it's SCT + Scangauge).

And yet, here we have Edge merrily promoting updates with 'fluff' in them, and ignoring the core product - the TUNING. Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous misdirection of resources.

Any one who asks me for advice - I will steer them well clear of any Edge product. It's obvious they are 'broken' somewhere within.

MGD

 

Quick Questoin - not to hijack anything but didnt think this needed another thread. How much does it cost if I have an edge and want to send it to PHP and convert it for custom tunes?

 

You'll find your answer here. http://www.phptune.com/index.shtml It's the route I took with my old Edge, and I was very happy with the result.

- Jack

 

Ya I know that I just cant find where it says it...its probably right there I just cant find it

 

UPGRADING YOUR EVOLUTION TO A GRYPHON
You'll need to send your programmer to us to be upgraded. If your truck is a 6.0L PSD, 6.4L PSD, or 2004-2008 F-150, we only need the programmer, itself. However, if your truck is a 7.3L PSD, please also include your OBDII cable when you send us your programmer.

When your Evolution arrives, we will change the case and update the firmware for a $25 charge. Your custom tunes will be uploaded onto your programmer before it ships back to you.

The above is Found here: http://www.phptune.com/_upgrades.shtml

Then add the cost per tune file (a.k.a Custom Calibrations)... pricing/details for which are further down the same page.

MGD

 

Thanks man