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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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You are right, the tow rating is 5000 lbs for a "BUMPER PULL". If you use a hitch receiver, you will be anywhere from 7700 lbs with your 3.55 axle in a 5.0L or 9600 lbs with an Ecoboost.
That is partially correct. While having a hitch allows you to go higher than 500/5000 lbs, that is ONLY when using a weight distribution hitch. Otherwise it is still limited to 500/5000 on the F150.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
That is partially correct. While having a hitch allows you to go higher than 500/5000 lbs, that is ONLY when using a weight distribution hitch. Otherwise it is still limited to 500/5000 on the F150.
Unless you have a Class 4 hitch that's rated higher without WD. However, WD will make for a much more stable tow.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Did he ever post his VIN? So we can see what his trucks GVWR from factory was?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Unless you have a Class 4 hitch that's rated higher without WD. However, WD will make for a much more stable tow.
As I stated, that is on the F150. The hitches on the F250 and higher are different and have a higher no WD rating.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Double post, please delete.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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4 posts, in chronological order:

Originally Posted by chomperoni
The GVWR on the door sticker is 7350.
Originally Posted by prime81
Post your VIN# up and we can tell you your GVWR and what tow ratings you should be using.
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We already know his GVWR and tow rating, we don't need the VIN.
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Did he ever post his VIN? So we can see what his trucks GVWR from factory was?
Hello? Where's your weight slip, Prime? Do you have me on ignore?
 

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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
As I stated, that is on the F150. The hitches on the F250 and higher are different and have a higher no WD rating.
Correct, the factory hitch on a F-150 is a Class 3. However, not to beat a dead horse, but you can put a Class 4 (1000/10000) on a F-150 if it doesn't have a factory hitch.

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hit...eid=2013308409
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Correct, the factory hitch on a F-150 is a Class 3. However, not to beat a dead horse, but you can put a Class 4 (1000/10000) on a F-150 if it doesn't have a factory hitch.

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hit...eid=2013308409
But you would probably still be limited to the 500/5000 due to frame and suspension concerns.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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nvm.... i cant read

But VIN would still help to determine things more quickly.


15,500 GCWR with EB

13,500 GCWR with 5.0
 

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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Correct, the factory hitch on a F-150 is a Class 3. However, not to beat a dead horse, but you can put a Class 4 (1000/10000) on a F-150 if it doesn't have a factory hitch.

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hit...eid=2013308409
You obviously don't have the tow package. The factory hitch on the F150 is a Class 4 rated at 10,500 lbs tow and 1,050 lbs tongue weight.

Class 3 are at most 6000 lbs tow/600 lbs tongue weight with weight distribution.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Up
You obviously don't have the tow package. The factory hitch on the F150 is a Class 4 rated at 10,500 lbs tow and 1,050 lbs tongue weight.

Class 3 are at most 6000 lbs tow/600 lbs tongue weight with weight distribution.
You need to look at the numbers on the label posted on the hitch. It will state the 10,500 is ONLY with a WD hitch. Otherwise it is limited to 500/5000.

See this thread.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/to...ht-rating.html

PS Ford calls these hitches a class III/IV. Not a III, but not a IV.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
You need to look at the numbers on the label posted on the hitch. It will state the 10,500 is ONLY with a WD hitch. Otherwise it is limited to 500/5000.

See this thread.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/to...ht-rating.html

PS Ford calls these hitches a class III/IV. Not a III, but not a IV.
They are a class 4. Look it up. I'm not going to argue because you seem to want to argue over nothing. Class 4 has always been up to 1000/10000 weight distribution hitch.

Class 3 has always been up to 500/5000 weight distribution.

Class I —up to 2,000 pounds (910 kg) — light loads
Class II —up to 3,500 pounds (1,600 kg) — light loads
Class III —up to 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)
Class IV —up to 10,000 pounds (4,500 kg) — larger loads (campers, boats, etc.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tow_hitch
Class III Trailer Hitch Receivers:
Designed for trucks, vans and sport utility vehicles
2" x 2" receiver hitch opening
Rated up to 6,000 lbs GTW with 600 lbs TW
Allows for more gear to be carried or towed
Works with all Class III accessories, such as bike racks, cargo carriers, and tube covers
Class I and Class II (1-1/4") hitch accessories can also be used with an adapter
Ball mounts are sold separately.
Will work with hitch ***** with 1" diameter shank
NOTE: Most manufacturers call any hitch with a 2" x 2" opening a Class III hitch
It is not uncommon to see a 2" hitch rated at 3,500 lbs GTW called a Class III hitch
Available in square and round tube designs


Class IV Trailer Hitch Receivers:
Designed for trucks, vans and sport utility vehicles
2" x 2" receiver hitch opening
Rated up to 12,000 lbs GTW and 1,000 TW
Allows for even more gear to be carried or towed
Works with all Class III and IV accessories
Class I and Class II (1-1/4") hitch accessories can also be used with an adapter
Ball mounts are sold separately.
Will work with hitch ***** with 1" diameter shank
Class IV hitch ***** require a 1-1/4" diameter shank
See here

As you can see, some makers have extended the rating slightly beyond the class' standard ratings. This is a newer thing but class 3 still never reaches anywhere near 1,000/10,000 lbs.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 11:42 PM
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Class III can go higher than 5000 as long as it is with a WD hitch. Yes a class IV can go to 12000 with a WD hitch, but on the F150 is still rated only to 500/5000 without. The picture in the thread I listed is a class III and on an F150. Even Draw-Tite calls there hitches a Class III/IV and does not separate them, as does Ford.

http://www.draw-tite.com/content/products.aspx
 
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Old Sep 7, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Up

I also would stick with a Jayco and stay away from those fiberglass laminated ultralight trailers as they delaminate and fall apart so fast. At rv.net, theres several threads on this subject.
You crack me up Mike. I'm having flash backs of you praising your precious 5.0 engine.

Instead of the 5.0 engine now your just trying to push a cheaper and less desirable travel trailer on to someone to justify your purchase...

I have owned fiberglass trailers for years without any issues. And for the record there isn't anything better than the look of a freshly cleaned and waxed fiberglass sided trailer!!


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Old Sep 7, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Up
All he has to do is subtract his families weight and subtract the weight of added gear and accessories from his tread act payload on the tire loading sticker on his door jam.

What he needs to do is go to a cat scale to weigh the whole rig and to find if the hitch adjustment moved the weights properly.

He really needs to go to rv.net to talk to experinced users as no one here really knows about travel trailer weights to help him make an educated decision on the size and weight of the travel trailer.

I also would stick with a Jayco and stay away from those fiberglass laminated ultralight trailers as they delaminate and fall apart so fast. At rv.net, theres several threads on this subject.
At least my Surveyor Select has aluminum studs. I don't have to worry about termites or water rotting the wood studs like your Jayco.
 
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