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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 12:47 PM
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4x4 and open diffs suck..

any of you guys convert the stock open diff over to a limited slip? i searched the threads past and didnt really find what i was wonting to know. mine has the 8.8". like how invasive is it and can it be done in my garage with help from the father-in-law? the one i'm looking at is just a carrier swap.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/yg...0/submodel/xlt

some of the videos on youtube ive seen they really emphasize on the backlash after its done but thats when they change out everything. any pointers would be appreciated.

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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my kid put a Richmond gear locker in his truck 3 years ago and he is not a mechanic.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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When buying my '10 I assumed that a 4x4 would automatically come with either a locker or limited slip without having to order it.

I was wrong!!!

So, if not ordered, you end up with a three wheel drive vehicle instead of a four wheel drive vehicle.

Open differentials should say "3x4" instead of "4x4".
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by High-ster
When buying my '10 I assumed that a 4x4 would automatically come with either a locker or limited slip without having to order it.

I was wrong!!!

So, if not ordered, you end up with a three wheel drive vehicle instead of a four wheel drive vehicle.

Open differentials should say "3x4" instead of "4x4".
yeah mine is a 4x4 but its still actually a 4x2..i have open diffs in the front and back. even in 4 low its either left front and right rear or right front and left rear turning. quite aggravating....
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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well actually 2wd vs 1 wheel drive mine has the LS and is 3wd LS plus front locker would be 4wd
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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yeah i just wanna put a LS in the rear. i hear a lot the LS doesnt work too well on the front if it didnt come like that from the factory..or you REALLY know when you're doing.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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Only thing I would consider on the front is a Air or Electric locker with open diff when not locked. I had a detroit locker in the rear and a LS in the front of a 4X4 once for about 6 weeks never again on anything i will drive on the streets.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:03 AM
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A friend of mine is looking at pulling his LS and putting in a locker since he does not want to rebuild it again. If he pulls it I will see what he wants for it and se if it will fit yours it is in a 07 Lincoln LT
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:06 AM
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Go with a Detroit TrueTrac lmited slip. There are no clutches to wear out. I have one in my Bronco and in my '11 F150.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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I live in the snowbelt near Cleveland and have no issue with the open diff.. Turn off traction control and enjoy the technology. My last F150 had the LS and I actually like the open diff. better. If you are going extreme 4X4 then get a locker. Check out this video at 3:52 (explains one wheel spin control). BTW the one wheel spin control applies to the front wheels as well in 4 hi.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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I live in the snowbelt near Cleveland and have no issue with the open diff.. Turn off traction control and enjoy the technology. My last F150 had the LS and I actually like the open diff. better. If you are going extreme 4X4 then get a locker. Check out this video at 3:52 (explains one wheel spin control). BTW the one wheel spin control applies to the front wheels as well in 4 hi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIGvhvOhLHU
i dont really have issues driving on the streets with it. i help the father in law do work around the land and stuff like pulling up stumps and things like that it would really help if i had one.

ive heard of that auto lsd in toyotas before. it would be nice if Ford had something like that..or maybe they do already?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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Go with a Detroit TrueTrac lmited slip. There are no clutches to wear out. I have one in my Bronco and in my '11 F150.
I've heard those are really good too. did you do the install yourself?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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i dont really have issues driving on the streets with it. i help the father in law do work around the land and stuff like pulling up stumps and things like that it would really help if i had one.

ive heard of that auto lsd in toyotas before. it would be nice if Ford had something like that..or maybe they do already?
The Ford open diff. is just like the Toyota open diff in the video (simulates a lsd by shifting power to the other wheel using the brake (and on the front wheels in 4 hi). For the extreme use of 4X4 then go with a locker but for the average joe one wheel spin control will work just fine. Remember to turn off traction control.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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I've heard those are really good too. did you do the install yourself?
I helped a friend do it on my F150. He has been rebuilding rearends for over 30 years. I probably could have done it but he works for cheap so I'd rather him do it. When he installed the TrueTrac in my Bronco he also swapped the gears for 4.10's so I did't want anything to do with that install.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverfish
I live in the snowbelt near Cleveland and have no issue with the open diff.. Turn off traction control and enjoy the technology. My last F150 had the LS and I actually like the open diff. better. If you are going extreme 4X4 then get a locker. Check out this video at 3:52 (explains one wheel spin control). BTW the one wheel spin control applies to the front wheels as well in 4 hi.
The reason I swapped my open diff/e-locker for a TruTrac was...The one wheel spin control worked great on dirt when I experimented with it. But on pavement I alway got the one wheel peel. If I was trying to jump out ahead of oncoming traffic it would spin one tire so bad I could barely get the truck moving.
 
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