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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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Auto Spring Vs. HBS Leveling Kit

I am not starting this thread to see which is better as I know both are just spacers. My question is does anyone on here have the actual dimensions? I have read that the AS 1.5" is the same as the HBS 2", can anyone confirm this?

Also is it harder to install a 2.5" rather than just a 2"? Even with a trailer on the back of my truck I still have a little bit of rake. I'm thinking of swapping out my HBS for a Auto Spring 2" or 2.5". If the AS and the HBS 2" kits are the same then that will make my choice a little bit easier and ill get the 2.5.

Basically im looking to get another 1/2" on the front of my truck. Thanks guys

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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Taken directly from each company's website:

Originally Posted by Auto Spring
Occasionally customers question the amount of lift they will get from these kits because they expect the spacer to the the thickness of the desired lift. When asked about the F-150 spacers, Autospring stated that:

A 1-1/4 inch thick spacer will net 1-1/2 inches of lift.

A 1-1/2 inch thick spacer will net a 2 inch lift

A 1-5/8 inch thick spacer will net a 2-1/2 inches of lift

A 1-3/4 inch thick spacer will net a 3 inch lift.
Originally Posted by Hell Bent Steel
*PLEASE NOTE: The thickness of the spacer is 1.25". Due to the design of the independent suspension of the truck, when you extend the strut by 1.25” the angle of the strut becomes steeper allowing the truck to experience approximately 2” of lift. It is the combination of extending the strut and the change in angle that gives the 2” lift. Remember that the installation is not complete until you have had the truck realigned. This is when you will see the true 2" lift that you are expecting.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Thanks for the info you posted but they said two different things. Can anyone actually confirm how much lift they gained. I never measured my truck before or after I did my install, plus I have bigger tires so that will mess up my measurements compared to stock trucks.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by used2vtec
Thanks for the info you posted but they said two different things. Can anyone actually confirm how much lift they gained. I never measured my truck before or after I did my install, plus I have bigger tires so that will mess up my measurements compared to stock trucks.
I gained 2" from my 2" autospring leveling kit. Devin4x4 went with a 2" HBS kit and I'm not positive but I don't think he got quite 2" of lift out of it. We both went with the same exact tires and he had to trim the lower valance and I have 2" of clearance on the valance. His truck is a screw and mine is a scab. That could also make a slight difference.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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Thanks for the info, that's just what im looking for. I just didn't want to purchase the 2" Auto Spring kit and be at the same height, lol. With your info and the other posted info it looks like ill gain at least 1/2 inch from the 2" Auto Spring. Now I just need to order it and spend a few hours out in the garage.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Just adding to it. I went with a 1.5" AS kit and confirm that it is a 1.25" spacer, which is the same dimensions as the HBS 2" spacer. I mentioned this when I posted in my install thread. I also think what comes into play is the Autospring spacers are the same ones that were used on the 04-08 models. The descriptions are the same as well. The problem is, there is different suspension geometry on the newer trucks and they yield more lift out of the same size spacer. I just don't think AS ever updated their descriptions for the newer years.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by used2vtec
Thanks for the info you posted but they said two different things. Can anyone actually confirm how much lift they gained. I never measured my truck before or after I did my install, plus I have bigger tires so that will mess up my measurements compared to stock trucks.
How is someone measuring THEIR truck going to give you any kind of accurate info to you? Especially when you dont know where you were before your spacer. Differences in cab size, trim level (weight), age, and mileage are all factors that are going to come into play making their info almost irrelevant.

I know that what I posted earlier says two different things, but it also gives the dimensions of each companies spacers... and that's what provides your lift. So if you are attempting to compare apples to apples that's how to do it.

HBS spacers are known to generally give the same amount of lift as they claim... AS lift figures are known for being conservative, I look at their lift claims as a label they put on their product, not an actual amount of lift to expect. Knowing this further supports the claim that 1.5" AS = 2" HBS.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperCruzin
How is someone measuring THEIR truck going to give you any kind of accurate info to you? Especially when you dont know where you were before your spacer. Differences in cab size, trim level (weight), age, and mileage are all factors that are going to come into play making their info almost irrelevant.

I know that what I posted earlier says two different things, but it also gives the dimensions of each companies spacers... and that's what provides your lift. So if you are attempting to compare apples to apples that's how to do it.

HBS spacers are known to generally give the same amount of lift as they claim... AS lift figures are known for being conservative, I look at their lift claims as a label they put on their product, not an actual amount of lift to expect. Knowing this further supports the claim that 1.5" AS = 2" HBS.
The measurements would give me a rough idea if someone posted up what they gained from a HBS and a AS kit. With the info you posted and everyone else, I think its safe to say that the AS kit will yield more lift. Thanks again for looking up that info for me, it helped me out.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Don't know if this helps in your situation as I have a 2008 2WD regular cab, but have the 1.5" AS. The amount of lift I ended up with is close to 1 3/4". I did take measurements before, after alignment and a few months later. I wanted to put the least amount of stress on my front end and keep a bit of rake in the back which worked out perfect.
 
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