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coolarmybrat 12-31-2010 02:49 AM

2010 F150 Stall
 
I bought my truck back in April 2010 and love every moment of it; XLT, 4.6 liter, 3 valve, 6 speed transmission, 5 1/2 bed size, XLT Chrome Package, Power Package, and Tow Package. I even added a BakFlip F1 and modded the reflector on each side mirror and turn them into an actual working turn signal.

Here is my situation, my engine stalled back in June, August, October, and now December 2010. It always occur unexpectedly when I am making a turn; voila, the engine just dies, absolutely NO power, no steering, and the brake pedal is hard to depress (stopping is impossible if you do not have the strength). I absolutely DO NOT allow my wife to use the new truck whatsoever for her safety and for the safety of my children. Anyhow, I have always followed three simple procedure to get out of my situation/predicament; (1) put the drive selector back into 'PARK' position, (2) put the key back into OFF position, (3) make sure all accessories are off, and then (4) turn the truck back ON. This procedure has never failed me BUT this is getting very dangerous and to add SALT into the injury, the people around me would say, "Wow, that is a brand new truck made by FORD and it stalls for no reason. Hmm, no wonder I don't buy American trucks!" Argh! my first American truck not at it's best; believe me, I am very proud of the truck but just not the quality. The SADDEST part about this is that I called the local Ford dealer, Cerritos Ford here in California, and I finally had the car inspected during my oil change but to my surprised they stated that there was (1) no problem with the truck and (2) there is no RECALL for this particular model (all is well, normal and healthy). I even mentioned to them to check the OBD computer ... and that too was hopeless since the dealer checked it out and to my surprise there is also NOTHING to note; everything in the system is fine. Well, after the first two stall, I would automatically run the sync 'Vehicle Report' hoping to capture anything and that too is hopeless. Needless to say, I have had two more incidents after the oil change and the dealer has the same answer.

So here I am very FRUSTRATED :( since the truck is not living to what it is suppose to be, Ford Tough! There is no toughness in my situation; only my frustration is getting tough. I have filed a complaint to NHTSA hoping that FORD would look into this. FYI: there are several complaints filed already related to engine stall (2010 model).

Question: has anyone experience this situation? If so, did the dealer look into this for you? What was the out come? Please let me know because I am ready to file a 'Lemon Law' very soon (three strikes, this truck is out).

Fasteel 12-31-2010 12:43 PM

must be some sort of electrical issue, if it were me I'd disconnect any electrical work I had personally done. FS

mete 12-31-2010 05:19 PM

My GF had a car that did that .She suspected the computer. The third time it happened she called Detroit and told them to replace computer .They did and there was no more problem !!
In any case you have a truck that has a dangerous condition. Don't drive it ! DEMAND action -replace parts - new vehicle etc.

binetd 01-23-2011 12:20 PM

2010 F-150 engines stalls
 
Good day everyone,

I bought my 2010 F-150 (brand new) 2 months ago and I am having the same issue. The engines stalls unexpectedly while driving or while being on Park gear.

I have not reported this issue to the dealership yet, but will this week.

Has anyone experienced the same issue and by any chance gotten it fixed by Ford ?

Maxout05 01-23-2011 12:32 PM

I also have a 2010 4.6l 3v with the 6spd, and mine at 2,500 miles stalled while starting to leave a stop, hit the gas all the sudden no power.. looked down and it wasnt running when 30 seconds before that it was when i stopped.. I'm not even going to bring it up to the dealer because they wouldnt be able to "recreate" the problem and just waste alot of my time. If it happens again then ill get into it with ford.

im kinda getting sick of this with fords. My boss had an 06 f-150 that stalled at odd times, my work truck is an 06 f350 v10 and that stalls at odd times repeadily, my 05 fx4 with the 5.4l did it a few times in the three years i owned that too. My bosses chevy 1500 never does this, nor does my chevy ck2500 work box truck with the 6.0l, cant see why ford cant make a vehicle that doesnt stall.

zski128 01-23-2011 12:41 PM

My 2010 4.6 3v (picked up in April 2010) is running fine, no stalls. What is your build date? Any erratic idle before it dies?

Maxout05 01-23-2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by zski128 (Post 4470145)
My 2010 4.6 3v (picked up in April 2010) is running fine, no stalls. What is your build date? Any erratic idle before it dies?

not sure on my build date have to look into it. But no no warning at all. I came to a stop sign, stopped, went to go and nothing happened, turned the radio off and realized the truck was not running, lol! The radio wasnt loud at all in fact it was talk radio on low volume and i never heard nothing happen. someone suggested the traction control caused a low rpm stall, but my question to them was how does that happen while completely stopped on dry pavement when it was running great when i came to the stop?
I've dealt with dealers before unless i bring it in stalling to them they wont do anything, so im not wasting my time with it.

zski128 01-23-2011 02:16 PM

Read this can be a few different things:

1) Loose connection in air intake (don't think this is your issue as I would think you would be stalling more often).
2) Transmission issue, bad valve body causing the transmission to lock during idle.
3) Software issue, reflash with newer version or replace PCM.

Droid 01-24-2011 03:27 PM

That's a serious safety issue. Take it to the dealer again, leave it, and tell them to fix it. If they continue to throw up their arms, I'd take action under the lemon law.

jpetre 01-24-2011 03:38 PM

Contact Ford they should get on this one pretty quick, that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Spank 01-24-2011 05:40 PM

Sounds like a Mazda I had. Dealer never found the problem and Mazda insisted there's no problem unless it can be duplicated. I sold that hunk of junk and have some else hate Mazda too.

binetd 01-24-2011 07:52 PM

2010 F-150 engines stalls
 
Thank you all for your comments.

I know since the first time it hapenned that I will have a hard time to get Ford to fix thhat problem....they first need to recreate it then good luck to figure out whats causing that....

Its like back pain....can't prove it to the doctor...but its there hurting you 24/7.

I will let ou guys know the verdict as soon as Im back from the dealership.

But I am quite convinced...somebody, somewhere in north america has had the same problem....fixed ! Where is that person that I need to talk to !!!!? :)

NthaSTiX 01-24-2011 08:34 PM

i have seen this on a few of the older F150s 04-08 before they did the 3 valve 4.6 in the F150s and on mine too (07 2 valve 4.6) where it was the throttle body killing the truck or causing rough idle even with no codes i worked on one the other day where the customer came in and requested replacing the spark plugs well did them and while test driving it drove fine but came to a stop and the rough idle started and went to take off and it died started up fine tho and drove back to the shop just fine checked for codes and it had nothing come to find out the customer was wanting to do spark plugs to fix his dying issue

zski128 01-24-2011 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by binetd (Post 4472151)
But I am quite convinced...somebody, somewhere in north america has had the same problem....fixed ! Where is that person that I need to talk to !!!!? :)

Ha, I bet you are right. Have not seen any TSBs about this issue, but there seems to be a rash of these lately.



(07 2 valve 4.6) where it was the throttle body killing the truck or causing rough idle even with no codes
What was the issue with the throttle body? Bad sensor?

Found this thread on another forum. http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewt...p?f=69&t=90646

Were where the trucks built that stalled? Whats the build date?

NthaSTiX 01-24-2011 11:41 PM

No sensor just internal failure I guess. I've seen some with a code to go along with it and some do it with no code just one of those things. I hope this helps but being its warranty its up to the dealership or Ford

philly164 01-25-2011 07:44 AM

start a lawsuit under lemon law,,that will get there attention!!!!!!!!

Memo05 01-26-2011 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by coolarmybrat (Post 4442948)
I bought my truck back in April 2010 and love every moment of it; XLT, 4.6 liter, 3 valve, 6 speed transmission, 5 1/2 bed size, XLT Chrome Package, Power Package, and Tow Package. I even added a BakFlip F1 and modded the reflector on each side mirror and turn them into an actual working turn signal.

Here is my situation, my engine stalled back in June, August, October, and now December 2010. It always occur unexpectedly when I am making a turn; voila, the engine just dies, absolutely NO power, no steering, and the brake pedal is hard to depress (stopping is impossible if you do not have the strength). I absolutely DO NOT allow my wife to use the new truck whatsoever for her safety and for the safety of my children. Anyhow, I have always followed three simple procedure to get out of my situation/predicament; (1) put the drive selector back into 'PARK' position, (2) put the key back into OFF position, (3) make sure all accessories are off, and then (4) turn the truck back ON. This procedure has never failed me BUT this is getting very dangerous and to add SALT into the injury, the people around me would say, "Wow, that is a brand new truck made by FORD and it stalls for no reason. Hmm, no wonder I don't buy American trucks!" Argh! my first American truck not at it's best; believe me, I am very proud of the truck but just not the quality. The SADDEST part about this is that I called the local Ford dealer, Cerritos Ford here in California, and I finally had the car inspected during my oil change but to my surprised they stated that there was (1) no problem with the truck and (2) there is no RECALL for this particular model (all is well, normal and healthy). I even mentioned to them to check the OBD computer ... and that too was hopeless since the dealer checked it out and to my surprise there is also NOTHING to note; everything in the system is fine. Well, after the first two stall, I would automatically run the sync 'Vehicle Report' hoping to capture anything and that too is hopeless. Needless to say, I have had two more incidents after the oil change and the dealer has the same answer.

So here I am very FRUSTRATED :( since the truck is not living to what it is suppose to be, Ford Tough! There is no toughness in my situation; only my frustration is getting tough. I have filed a complaint to NHTSA hoping that FORD would look into this. FYI: there are several complaints filed already related to engine stall (2010 model).

Question: has anyone experience this situation? If so, did the dealer look into this for you? What was the out come? Please let me know because I am ready to file a 'Lemon Law' very soon (three strikes, this truck is out).

coolarmybrat is your problem fix yet? I found a number for ford explain the situation to them it seems it works calling this number... 866-631-3788

binetd 03-27-2011 04:20 PM

2010 F-150 engine stalls - Problem Solved!
 
Good day everyone,

As promised, here is how Ford managed to find what was causing my engine to stall and what Ford has done to fix it.

First I realized that the engine only stalled when I had a passenger sitting in the front seat, leaning towards the back seat to grab something or to hand food , toys etc. to my son.

Brought my F-150 to my dealership who was able to replicate the problem.

They realized that the passenger's right foot touching the fuse box plastic cover would squeeze a wire against the fuse box, thus shorting the whole system.

Fuse box was replaced.
No more problems since then (1 month).

Good Luck guys !

nauveed 03-31-2011 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by binetd (Post 4544071)
Good day everyone,

As promised, here is how Ford managed to find what was causing my engine to stall and what Ford has done to fix it.

First I realized that the engine only stalled when I had a passenger sitting in the front seat, leaning towards the back seat to grab something or to hand food , toys etc. to my son.

Brought my F-150 to my dealership who was able to replicate the problem.

They realized that the passenger's right foot touching the fuse box plastic cover would squeeze a wire against the fuse box, thus shorting the whole system.

Fuse box was replaced.
No more problems since then (1 month).

Good Luck guys !


... wow. Impressive diagnostics.

Brettk31 01-20-2012 01:01 PM

I have this same issue with my 2010 F-150. It randomly stalls while driving. It's happened to me more than 10 times and I have brought it in for service on this issue 3 times.

Today, I FINALLY got a check engine light, (not just the wrench sign) so the dealership has proof now that this is happening. I worked with their Master Mechanic, who was able to get a diagnostic code.

I'll post back to this once I get the truck back (should be today).

FYI: I have had them fix the air intake hose, which did come loose at some point. They have checked the Electronic Throttle Body and some other fuel related electrical components.

More updates as I get the info from my dealership today.

Jen411 03-15-2012 10:34 AM

Stall
 
I bought my F-150 in May of 2010. Since that time I have had the truck in the shop at the Ford dealer four different occasions for the truck randomly stalling and they replaced the throttle body four different times. The truck continues to stall and I am now in process of filing a formal complaint. I have four children and I consider this a very serious safety hazard. When I think of this situation I am afraid this may turn for the worse like the situation with Lexus did.

Tyler4x4 07-13-2012 09:20 PM

2010 FX4 Dies at idle
 
Has anyone found a fix to this issue yet?

Two weeks ago my truck died at a stop sign then at the next three stops i made it continued to die. It would crank right back up with a rough idle then die every time the rpm's got around 700"idle". i pulled into a parking lot with no powersteering because it died as i slowed down to turn and parked. The low oil pressure light would come on when it would die, i'm assuming it was just because the truck was not running. I popped the hood and looked around, everything seemed fine, i cranked the truck back up and suddenly my display said i had 48 miles to empty on my fuel and my gauge was on E. I had half a tank of gas before the stalling occured. I drove to the nearest gas station and filled the tank up. It took 18 gallons to fill the 36 gallon tank up. The fuel gauge rose to just above 3/4 of a tank. This was on a Saturday. I went to the dealership on Monday and scheduled an appointment for a week and a half later on a thursday. The truck didn't die on me again for that time, but after topping off at a gas station a week later it took 8 tries to get it to crank up. Seemed that it wasn't getting any fuel.

I picked it up from the dealership today. They said the purge valve was ticking and was most likely the culprit. They changed that out. They also said there was a TSB for the instrument cluster so they flashed that. I got in the truck and cranked it up. The display said 34 miles to empty, i knew it had about half a tank when i dropped it off, so i drove less than a mile to a gas station to fill it up. When i pulled in at the pump the display said 28 miles to empty. I put 23 gallons in the tank and drove straight back to the dealership to let them know something is still wrong. It is a 2010 truck with 28k miles on it. Today is Friday so they won't be able to work on it until Monday. I'll drop it off again and update when i recieve it. I've read all the threads online that i can find about this issue, and purge valves and fcim are the only things that anyone has mentioned being wrong.

Any Pro's know what is going on here??

Jen411 07-24-2012 09:27 AM

Ford F150 Stall
 
All who are having the problem please be aware and take the issue very seriously. My 2010 F150 which have about 38K has stalled since the third week we bought it. Ford have pretty much changed every part on the truck and yet it continued to stall in which they told us "they could not duplicate the problem". We have filed suit against Ford but as I said please be aware because as we all know when the truck talls it loses all power, we don't even have control over the steering. I recently drove my husbands truck and was involved in an accident because the truck stalled. Like I said please do not take this issue lightly. The more people that file suit against Ford maybe we can prevent someone from really getting hurt and also Ford can figure out the problem.:mad

Jen411 07-24-2012 09:29 AM

Ford has no found a fix as far as i know.

High-ster 07-24-2012 01:20 PM

All these members posting this problem have a 4.6, 3V???

Tyler4x4 07-25-2012 08:09 PM

2010 F150 Stall Update
 
Sorry for the late update on my dealerships fix. I'm not sure if i was having the exact same problem as everyone else, as my fuel gauge was also out of wack. My truck also did not die while driving, only at idle speeds would it die. And sometimes wouldn't crank up right away. The dealership changed out a ticking purge valve which they thought was the problem, however the fuel gauge that went crazy the exact moment the truck died the first time wasn't fixed. They replaced the fuel pump assembly on the truck because they found some bent rods on something. This fixed the fuel gauge problem and i haven't had any issues since my last post (2weeks). My truck is a 2010 FX4 Screw 5.4liter.

havasuhusker 08-07-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Tyler4x4 (Post 4874103)
They replaced the fuel pump assembly on the truck because they found some bent rods on something. This fixed the fuel gauge problem .

I have a 2010 XLT 4x4. It stalled 3x before the dealer did the same fix as yours. However, even with the fix, the distance till empty is all out of wack. It will go all the way down to like 30 miles till empty and then when i restart the truck, it goes back up to what it probably should be.

That said, it's been about 4-5 months since it last stalled, but just today, the stalling problem reared it's ugly head. Not sure what to do at this point. Going to try a different dealer and see if they find anything different. My guess is the computer should be replaced.

Tyler4x4 08-07-2012 10:46 PM

husker,
Please update once you get it back from the dealership. My truck hasn't acted up anymore, but I still have my doubts that they actually fixed the problem.

havasuhusker 08-14-2012 12:21 PM

I got my truck back from the dealer. They weren't able to find anything definative as nothing showed up on their diagnostic tools. That said, I was told the tech thought it might have something to do with the Vapor Management Valve, and so it was replaced. I've had the truck for a couple of days and have not had any issues....yet. All I can do at this point is hope for the best.

chris3058 08-15-2012 09:20 AM

File a complaint with the NHTSA. That will get someone's attention at ford....especially a safety issue like that.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/Vehicle+Safety/

Jim A 09-07-2012 03:27 PM

Problem with fuel pump
 
Tyler4x4,
I would like to know how you were able to resolve this with Ford. I have experienced a very similar issue with my 2010 F-150 XLT.

Sorry but his is a long story and I am posting on other F-150 sites

Driving home from work (50 miles each way) started trip with 1/2 tank of gas gauge reported I had around 180 mile to empty. 20 miles later got the warning tone that I was 50 miles from empty. I worked my way over to exit the freeway within four miles as I was exiting computer read zero miles to empty. As I was turning into the Gas station truck died. After several tries truck restarted and I got into the station to pump in some gas. I put in five gallons be certain that it was more than enough to get me home. Computer then read 190 miles to empty. Drove the final 25 miles home when I arrived home the computer was reading around 25 miles to empty. I parked the truck and checked over the engine compartment and underneath looking for and smelling for fuel leaks. Nothing was found but there was an indentation in the tank behind the forward band holding the tank. I opened the fuel door and while messing around with the cap-less system I heard and felt air rushing into the tank. Next morning tank was fine no indentation and computer now read 94 miles to empty. Drove to my local dealer and explained everything to service writer. Got a call that afternoon that they had reflashed the computer per a TSB.
Four days later once again driving home similar issue truck dies as I'm attempting to enter gas station. Started trip with 159 miles to empty 1/4 tank 18 miles later it's reading 35 miles to empty 5 miles later it died showing 7 miles to empty. I the put 6 gallons of gas in computer reads 24 miles to empty. Limp the 27 miles home truck now reads 2 miles to empty.
Back to the Ford dealer in the morning with pictures of the gauge cluster. Later in the day they call to say that they believe it is the fuel level sensor but want to keep the truck for another day and put some more gas in at my expense I say go for it it has to be fixed. They called to let me know they were sure that the problem was the sender and they had to special order the part. So off to the dealer I go on the Friday before Labor Day. The service writer suggested that I try to keep the tank full when driving until the part came in (four gallons added before it overflows) tank is reading a little over 1/2 tank 250 to empty.
Went ahead and drove to work and back on Tuesday some how my work is now 46.7 miles away according to the odometer, mapping programs and my two other vehicles agree that it is 50.1 miles.
Return to Ford Thursday morning to have sender installed later in the day I receive a call saying my fuel pump is bent so service is not covered by warranty!!!!! $700 parts and labor!!!!!!!! They saying that I must have run over something or gone off-road and damaged the pump do it is not warranty claimable. In looking at the pump today yeas the rods are bent but even the mechanic agreed that there is no visible physical damage to the tank itself.
I'm looking for any help or answers.
I told the service writer and mechanic this morning I am disputing the no warranty decision but fix it.
this thread is one of two I have found in a quick search for similar problems.

Thanks in advance,
Jim

Elk_Slayer 09-07-2012 03:57 PM

Isn't the fuel pump located on top of the gas tank? I would call B.S and have them show me the damage or prove it.

Jim A 09-07-2012 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Elk_Slayer (Post 4893586)
Isn't the fuel pump located on top of the gas tank? I would call B.S and have them show me the damage or prove it.

Fuel pump is damaged but there is no visible damage to tank. I've started the process with Ford to fight this. Hopefully I won't have to involve a lawyer but if I have to... I will.

Elk_Slayer 09-07-2012 05:31 PM

Dealers don't like doing warranty work. (minimum dinero) Do you have another dealer close by, take it to them and see what they say.

Jim A 09-07-2012 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Elk_Slayer (Post 4893628)
Dealers don't like doing warranty work. (minimum dinero) Do you have another dealer close by, take it to them and see what they say.

Tank is loose pump is out and gas has been taken out to facilitate removal. I used to work in a Lincoln Mercury dealer 30 years ago so I know all about warranty dislike.

Tyler4x4 09-09-2012 10:27 PM

Jim A

Sounds like we had the same exact problem, I sent you an email but got an error code when i sent it. I'm not sure if it went through. I had no problem with my dealership in getting the work covered by the warranty. However, i was pretty harsh with them when they tried to give me the truck back and it wasn't fixed. I hope you are able to get the issue resolved. I have had no problems with the truck since my last post.

Jim A 09-09-2012 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tyler4x4 (Post 4894379)
Jim A

Sounds like we had the same exact problem, I sent you an email but got an error code when i sent it. I'm not sure if it went through. I had no problem with my dealership in getting the work covered by the warranty. However, i was pretty harsh with them when they tried to give me the truck back and it wasn't fixed. I hope you are able to get the issue resolved. I have had no problems with the truck since my last post.

I did get your email thanks. Picked up the truck yesterday $692.43 parts and labor. I raised Hell once again as I was leaving. Manager was not there and my service guy was in charge. Told other service writer who checked me out that talking with him was a waste of time. I did get a reply to my email complaint to Ford today. I'm not real optimistic but your email gives me more ammo for my fight.
Thank you once again.
Jim A

Jim A 09-09-2012 11:07 PM

Oh yeah and they did not replace the purge valve even though I expressly told them that this caused the issue not from the fuel tank being hit as he put on the repair order.
The one that has no visible damage to it.
I drove truck about 15 miles at freeway speeds today when I stopped I could see that the tank was distorted in the middle like vacuum was sucking it up. Since the tank is 3/4 full I'm hoping it didn't start damaging the new pump yet, not enough room. So I'm guessing the dealerships answer will be don't drive with less than 3/4 tank :rolleyes: problem solved.

tbones 09-17-2012 05:17 PM

My truck did the stall thing this morning. 2010 f150 4.6l3v 4x4 reg cab, 23,000 miles. Driving down road at 35 mph. Steering got heavy then the chimes rang. Put in neutral and restarted the keep driving. No other electrical power loss just engine stall. Lucky I was on a local road with very little traffic, then on the highway. Some times I get what feels like a surge in engine. Like a very strong tail wind pushing me forward.

alex5.0 12-04-2012 09:28 AM

He guys ,

For those with problem with your fuel pump , do you have DTC code ?

I have a friend with a 2010 FX4 5.4 and it die after 25-30. miles of highway driving . wait 10 min , engine start again but will stall half miles after .


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