From the Dallas Morning News


Ford is already attracting buyers with the 2011 F-150; 2010 sales through August are up an impressive 29.4 percent nationally over the year before in a weak overall market.

But the F-150's engines have long been a weakness, falling far short of the most powerful trucks in the segment. High-flying Ford intends to correct that with the new engines.

"They are definitely impressive," said Mike Levine, founder of PickupTrucks.com, who has driven trucks equipped with the new engines.

Beginning later this year, the base F-150 will arrive with a 302-horsepower, 3.7-liter V-6, said Scott, the Ford truck marketing manager. The next step up will be a retuned version of the 5-liter V-8 in the 2011 Mustang, which will be rated at 360 horsepower and have 380 pound-feet of torque.

Next up will be a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6, a turbocharged, direct-injected engine with 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque. That torque peaks at a low 2,500 rpm.

"From the very beginning, the statement there is no replacement for displacement came from traditional truck buyers," Scott said. "But once we are able to show them the numbers – EcoBoost will be our maximum tower at 11,300 pounds – we think we can prove it out."

The new premium V-8 will be a 6.2-liter V-8 available on mostly high-end models that has 411 horsepower and 434 pound-feet of torque.

Versions of all the engines are being used in other vehicles, from the Mustang and Edge to the Taurus SHO, Lincoln MKT and Ford Super Duty pickups. All should deliver "best-in-class" fuel economy, Scott said.

"We're really excited about it," he said. "We've always had that built-tough capability going for us. But if we came up short, it was in fuel economy and having a really premium V-8. These engines solve that problem."

 

So that's what the EcoBoost is going to put out? I'm impressed. I can't wait until December when my Ol' Man gets one. Then I'll have 8 months to decide Eco or 5.0.

 

peak 365/420 on reg fuel

(6.2L 417/434 on prem)

 

Where have you seen on premium. Everything I have seen sates those numbers with reg.

Also, what I saw is that the 3.5EB and 6.2 are not able to run E85.

As far as HP, no one said that the engine didn't have it or torque. Most are concerned about longevity, especially when they are boosted to get more HP so they are closer to their limits. 6.2 is no where near it's limits so should (conceivably) be a longer lasting engine. Also, even in diesels, turbos are the limiting factor on engine life/maintenance.

 

Read this and tell me that you are still worried about longevity of the engine.


http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09...s-durable.html

 

It was discussed on another long forum and the 6.2 engineer said those #s were on premium, BUT now I look at the new specs on the 2011 website and it says reg?

So who really know?

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/92...engine-24.html

 

I cant wait for the 3.5 Ecoboost to come out. Hopefully by mid 2011 I'll have my 05 paid off and trade it in on a brand new 2012 Fx4 with the EB engine. When you custom order a truck do they still allow you negotiate the price a little?

 

Yup

 

Already read them. Means nothing as it really doesn't show that the tests were with towing, etc, where a heavy load was put on the engine. Just that they were run at high rpm for a long time. RPM and load are not the same thing.
A dyno is not the same thing as real world use.

 

You didn't read the part about towing logs, going up mountains higher than Pikes Peak and towing two race cars?

 

6.2 takes E-85 although, I havn't tried it.

 

Exactly Kingfish. If someonw can show me one with heavy towing and load use at 70K+ miles, I'll be a believer. There are plenty of 5.4s out there with 200K on them that gave been beaten to death and still run.

 

If I remember what I read, they had not done that yet, and for how long. 1 day, 1month, 1 year. Unless it was the later, it would not impress me.

Just to verify,

So this has not been done yet, and this is not any long term test.

 

I think it's kind of hypocritical of anyone not being a believer of an engine's potential unless it has years of towing abuse. I don't know about the rest of you, but I rarely see an F150 around these parts that is actually used as a truck, besides those in base trim fleet use. Anyone that has to tow anything around here has a super duty for that task, myself included. We have the F350 for hard work and the F150 is purely a daily driver grocery getter.

It's the same thing as people sqawking about wanting a tough as nails diesel that'll last 500,000 miles towing 20k+ everyday when the majority of those owners will never see that kind of use and will no doubt use it as a grocery getter and trade it in after three years with only 50k miles on it.

I'm sure the EB will be able to easily handle 99% of actual F150 owner's needs.

 

one of the smartest comments I have ever read on here. By the way I am an engineer in the auto industry and have been working on the EB 3.5L for the F150 for the last 2 years. This motor is the real deal. I havent been as excited about a drivetrain line up in a vehicle in my lifetime. Ford is proving more and more every day that they are the best. The perfect truck for me would be a 25mpg 4x4 with a 7000lb+ towing capacity, and nice hauling capacity............oh wait Ford is knocking on this door