- Who really tows more than 9,800lbs? And if you do and you want a 5.0L... get it? Your already going to be over gawrs & gvwr so whats the diff? My 04 FX4 has a max tow rating of 8,800 lbs which was very high back then. We need some perspective here. What part of the max tow pkg are you missing that you want it matched up with the 5.0L?

- They don't really need to offer 3 engines with the max tow when they have 2 more than capable units. Why?

 

Yep, they do have tons of power! My dad has an '09 F350 and the engine is not short on power at all.

Yep! I think a lot of people forget that and are too quick to blame the DPF alone for the dismal fuel. ULSD is a huge factor in that.

Woah, that sounds like his EGR or DPF might be clogged. When everything is running right, it shouldn't be blowing any smoke while regenerating. My dad's blows clear. You can't even tell unless you catch it at a certain angle. Then you can see the heat blowing out of it like if you were staring at a BBQ grill on a hot day.

Yeah, but if it was a turbocharged I6 diesel, people would be all over it.

 

If that's your mindset, so be it. You are entitled to that opinion. Pony up for a Lariat or a Platinum if that's what you insist on and need/want more power than the 5.0 offers.

That's the problem - the 5.4 did NOT do that good a job with max tow loads. How many of you have been screaming for years that the 5.4 was underpowered? Ford is tired of hearing it.

 

Yea and 275 ft/lbs torque. That 300hp wont feel that good in a crew cab 4x4

 

Maybe some of us cannot afford a Lariat or Platinum. I am one of them. I love my XLT. I tow a big trailer and I think they screwed up not offering the 6.2 for all of us. I guess they need to be able to make some improvements for 2012... Like the 6.2 for all models. The V-6 TT is going to be a bust.

 

Can't get it in a crew cab 4x4, only 2 wheel drive.

 

 

I'm curious if the base 3.7 will be offered with 4x4 in reg. cab or supercab. As for me, the 5.0 sounds right for me. I think the 6.2 should be an option across all trims. I don't exactly need a 45k just to get a 6.2 (if I wanted one) truck to do what I need. They're all underneath the bells and whistles anyway. I can see an XLT with the 6.2 being a hot seller.

 

I seriously doubt the 6.2L will make it into anything else than what Ford has made available, and you can thank the CAFE standards for that.

As for the V6 TT being a bust and to all those wanting a diesel powerplant in a half ton, give it up. I'd be willing to bet my life savings on the new 3.5L EB being the next best thing to happen to the half ton truck industry.

 

I seriously think one you drive a turbo boosted truck, you'll be hooked. Driving an 8000lb F350 with a 6.4 will give you a good indication of what it feels like. When the turbos dump 30lbs of boost and it rips through all five gears so fast with such precision in such a heavy vehicle, it's exhilarating. I love a big v8, don't get me wrong, but I have a feeling the boost thrust in that "wimpy" v6 is going to be orgasmic. Add the select shift transmission and it should be a fun ride.


To me, this sounds pretty damn good for a V6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37uJ2_QVAdo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZOXstqZQwk

 

I dunno. I agree the acceleration will be great but, a performance exhaust on a 6 cylinder just sounds like noise to me. It's just not as nice as a V8 to listen to. The Taurus in this vid sounds like a tractor.

 

Agreed.

 

My biggest concern with the 3.5 eco-boost is going to be durability. Yes it is putting out a lot of HP for a small engine, meaning it is working at much closer to it's limits than a naturally aspirated v8. On top of that is moving around 2 times the weight of the Flex or Taurus on a daily basis, and with max towing, probably 4-5 times the weight. That will put a lot of strain on that engine.
The 4.6 and 5.4 have shown they will stand up to that abuse, will the 3.5? Just like anything else. the closer you are to the limits of something, the quicker and easier it will break.

 

Remember the 300 straight 6? Why didn't they just put a turbo on that indestructible engine. I'm hoping this ecoboost turns out to be as durable as the 300's were, just in a V-form. I bet if the Eco Boost pans out to be reliable, and with the EPA restricting everything, the V-8 line may not be around in the future. I wonder what numbers they'd get out of a eco boost with the 4.2 displacement of the old V-6's.

 

The 3.5L EB was designed with turbocharging in mind, therefore has increased strength in areas where it is needed. It's not like Ford took some regular engine and threw in a couple of turbos as an afterthought. Obviously, there are some cases where the manufacturer overlooks something, but I still think the EB will be a game changer and its durability will be on par with anything else Ford is offering for 2011. I mean, look at the tow rating it received. I highly doubt Ford would give it the highest tow rating available (with Max Tow Package) if they didn't think it could stand up to the abuse.