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2011 F150 Engine Lineup!

Old Aug 12, 2010 | 03:23 AM
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It's not going to be the same as the Mustang - it's going to be tuned for torque.

While this 5.0-liter V8 engine is similar to the one powering the 2011 Mustang GT, it has several important differences to optimize it for the harsh duty cycle truck customers demand. First, the camshafts were tuned to improve low-speed torque, which is key to truck customers. Also, the 10.5:1 compression ratio was optimized to reduce knock tendency at lower engine speeds while towing.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 06:13 AM
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estamated towing capicity for the 3.5 tt was 11,300? did I hear that right? thats the same as the 6.2. damn.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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I wonder how the 5.0 will compare to the 5.4 as far as towing goes. It has more hp, but a little less torque, and if I remember correctly and it's the same as the Mustang, it makes those numbers at a higher RPM. Not the greatest for towing. It'll be interesting to see how people like it as I don't see a large number of buyers putting down the extra coin for the untested EB.
Untested in the F150? Because it's already in use in the Flex and Taurus.

Once some folks actually put some towing experience on this thing, the cred will ramp up purty quick. Nothing like a ruler-flat torque curve.

The missing piece of info for me is - what's the driveline loss with the 6-speed / 4WD?

I hope it's not as abysmal as the the previous-gen trannies / drivetrain - ~30% ...

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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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All I've seen is reports that the drivetrain is going to be different in the 2011. I've seen nothing stating there are going to be any major changes to the suspension or any other major component. This leads me to believe that the trucks spent more time doing full throttle up to speed then back down to a stop testing rather than spending a lot of time on the "rattle road". I seriously doubt Ford is going to let an engine get out that has a lot of major problems. The only thing changing on the truck is the engine and transmission. How tough/expensive would it be to load a trailer up with 11,300 lbs and start/stop it all day long? How long would it take before it would have 50k on the odo? Two, three months maybe depending on the number of hours driven per day.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mozy
I wonder how the 5.0 will compare to the 5.4 as far as towing goes. It has more hp, but a little less torque, and if I remember correctly and it's the same as the Mustang, it makes those numbers at a higher RPM. Not the greatest for towing. It'll be interesting to see how people like it as I don't see a large number of buyers putting down the extra coin for the untested EB.
Taken directly from the article linked in the first post:

While this 5.0-liter V8 engine is similar to the one powering the 2011 Mustang GT, it has several important differences to optimize it for the harsh duty cycle truck customers demand. First, the camshafts were tuned to improve low-speed torque, which is key to truck customers. Also, the 10.5:1 compression ratio was optimized to reduce knock tendency at lower engine speeds while towing.

The hardware added to the 5.0 specifically for F-150 includes: an additional oil cooler, which helps extend the life of the oil to 10,000-mile intervals; foam covers for the fuel injectors to reduce NVH; and cast exhaust manifolds for improved durability. The new aluminum block is 70 pounds lighter than the 5.4-liter V8, which aids fuel economy and improves handling. The engine’s forged-steel crankshaft also ensures durability.

“This engine uses proven technology to deliver a great combination of low-speed torque and fuel economy with the durability F-150 customers demand,” said Mike Harrison, V8 engine programs manager.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mozy
I wonder how the 5.0 will compare to the 5.4 as far as towing goes. It has more hp, but a little less torque, and if I remember correctly and it's the same as the Mustang, it makes those numbers at a higher RPM. Not the greatest for towing. It'll be interesting to see how people like it as I don't see a large number of buyers putting down the extra coin for the untested EB.
Remember, to get 390 ft-lbs in the 5.4, you have to run E85. So, I would say the 5.0 has more torque for 99.9% of buyers.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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I have to disagree about it being the top engine for towing. So far all have said ab out 400hp and 400ftlbs of torque for the eco-boost. That is 10% below the 6.2s torque. Personally I would much rather have the V8 as it will not be working as hard as that 6 cylinder to do the same thing. The main reason for Ford to have it is mileage. They need to get so many in there so the meet federal mileage requirements.
where did you see that. i read that it was comparable to the current 5.4 hp and torque
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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They have videos up for all the new engines except the EB on Ford's website. Still can't build a 2011 yet though...

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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where did you see that. i read that it was comparable to the current 5.4 hp and torque
They've been saying all along that the EB would have 400/400 when it was released.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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No 6.2 in regular cab short bed, no care.
seriously!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FATHERFORD
No 6.2 in regular cab short bed, no care.
So go buy a Chevy.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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So go buy a Chevy.
Actually he'd probably be better off with a Tundra and a TRD supercharger.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Here's another quote........

"We expect that in the next two to three years Ford will revise the 6.2 with new heads, four-valves per cylinder, direct injection and Ti-VCT for improved mileage and power."

That will be just about the time I'm ready to buy a new truck
I here you there!!!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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I cant wait for the 2011, I think Id be happy with any engine except the base engine, F150 I come, bye bye Tundra and its crappy ride
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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The base engine has 300 hp..........
 
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