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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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They would have to work on getting more torque out of it for it to be a decent truck engine.
^^ X2 ^^

A straight car-to-truck transplant, without modifying the powerband for use in a truck, would cause much suckage.

Yeah - a 6-speed would help some, but who would want to always be revving along like a ricer just to keep it on the boil? Towing? Fergit it, lol.

My take - the 3.7, or any non-ecoboost V6 has no bidness being in a +5,000lb rolling brick with the aeros of a barn door
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
^^ X2 ^^

A straight car-to-truck transplant, without modifying the powerband for use in a truck, would cause much suckage.

Yeah - a 6-speed would help some, but who would want to always be revving along like a ricer just to keep it on the boil? Towing? Fergit it, lol.

My take - the 3.7, or any non-ecoboost V6 has no bidness being in a +5,000lb rolling brick with the aeros of a barn door
Since the 4.6l 2 valve only has 248hp and 294 lb-ft of torque I'd say the 3.5l could be a decent engine. Which is probably why Ford announced the 3.5 eco-boost engine was going in the 150 not the 3.7. It has better numbers than the small V-8, with the economy of a V-6. Even if detuned a bit the 3.5 eco-boost could still have decent numbers and be a decent engine in the 150.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
^^ X2 ^^

A straight car-to-truck transplant, without modifying the powerband for use in a truck, would cause much suckage.

Yeah - a 6-speed would help some, but who would want to always be revving along like a ricer just to keep it on the boil? Towing? Fergit it, lol.

My take - the 3.7, or any non-ecoboost V6 has no bidness being in a +5,000lb rolling brick with the aeros of a barn door
I've been seeing newstories on pickuptrucks.com that say that not only is the 3.7L a possibility in the F150, but so is an ecoboost 4cyl. The reason for this? The Ranger is going away and Ford seems to think that they can draw future Ranger buyers to the F150 because it will offer the same fuel mileage. I would imagine that the 3.7L and the ecoboost 4cyl would only be available in future F150s in a regular cab 2wd configuration. This could also mean that they plan to bring manual transmissions into the F150 line-up, at least for the smaller engines. And who knows, by the time these smaller displacement engines make it into the F150 (around or after 2012, when Ranger production in the US stops), they may put the F150 on a diet. It's not like they'll be putting these engines in the current F150s tomorrow. This also may help the F150 meet the strict CAFE fuel mileage standards in the future which was, what, 30MPG?

I actually think it's a promising idea for business fleet owners to who can use the larger truck for bulky items, but don't necessarily need the heavy towing/payload ability. The smaller engines may be gutless compared to the V8s, but most business owners don't buy their fleet vehicles because they're fun to drive.

On the other hand, not everyone wants a fullsize truck, so I also think Ford will lose the buyers who bought the Ranger for its size to other brands when the compact truck market is revived.

In any case, engine options for the F150 could be something like this in 2012 or 2013:
Ecoboost 4cyl -- base engine in reg cab 2wd configuration, short or long bed
3.7L V6 -- base engine in reg cab 4wd configuration, short or long bed. Ext cab 2wd configuration.
5.0L V8 -- base engine in every other configuration, option in above configurations in higher trim levels.
Ecoboost 3.5L V6 -- premium engine offering that will be available in all configurations
6.2L V8 -- premium engine offering only available in certain configurations in higher trim levels.

This is just speculation, of course.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 02:22 AM
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Has anyone actually seen an article that was published within the last year that confirms the EcoBoost in the F-150 for 2011 or even 2012? I have seen several articles that talk about it, but they are all from early 2009 or late 2008. I am planning to buy a new F-150, but I am going to wait for the EB to become available before I do...

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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunesgirl
I've been seeing newstories on pickuptrucks.com that say that not only is the 3.7L a possibility in the F150, but so is an ecoboost 4cyl. The reason for this? The Ranger is going away and Ford seems to think that they can draw future Ranger buyers to the F150 because it will offer the same fuel mileage. I would imagine that the 3.7L and the ecoboost 4cyl would only be available in future F150s in a regular cab 2wd configuration. This could also mean that they plan to bring manual transmissions into the F150 line-up, at least for the smaller engines. And who knows, by the time these smaller displacement engines make it into the F150 (around or after 2012, when Ranger production in the US stops), they may put the F150 on a diet. It's not like they'll be putting these engines in the current F150s tomorrow. This also may help the F150 meet the strict CAFE fuel mileage standards in the future which was, what, 30MPG?

I actually think it's a promising idea for business fleet owners to who can use the larger truck for bulky items, but don't necessarily need the heavy towing/payload ability. The smaller engines may be gutless compared to the V8s, but most business owners don't buy their fleet vehicles because they're fun to drive.

On the other hand, not everyone wants a fullsize truck, so I also think Ford will lose the buyers who bought the Ranger for its size to other brands when the compact truck market is revived.

In any case, engine options for the F150 could be something like this in 2012 or 2013:
Ecoboost 4cyl -- base engine in reg cab 2wd configuration, short or long bed
3.7L V6 -- base engine in reg cab 4wd configuration, short or long bed. Ext cab 2wd configuration.
5.0L V8 -- base engine in every other configuration, option in above configurations in higher trim levels.
Ecoboost 3.5L V6 -- premium engine offering that will be available in all configurations
6.2L V8 -- premium engine offering only available in certain configurations in higher trim levels.

This is just speculation, of course.
Very nicely put. I had not considered the fleet & CAFE aspects.

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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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EB in F-150:
Autoblog September with Press Release

Autoblog Jan with PR
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skrappy
Has anyone actually seen an article that was published within the last year that confirms the EcoBoost in the F-150 for 2011 or even 2012? I have seen several articles that talk about it, but they are all from early 2009 or late 2008. I am planning to buy a new F-150, but I am going to wait for the EB to become available before I do...

Thanks,
The press release reprinted in the linked article posted by APT can be found here:
http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-...ted-nine-31765
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 01:48 AM
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Thank you very much for the posts!

I went by one of the Ford Dealerships last weekend to check out the trucks and take a test drive. It really bothered me when the salesmen (all of them we could find) and the sales manager had no idea that Ford was even considering the Ecoboost in the 2011 F-150... Is it too much to ask for the sales guys to know a little about what they are selling?

Thanks Again!

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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Well, Ford isn't selling the EB F150 yet, not until Aug/Sep if it launches with the MY2011 start of production.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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don't expect to see the 2011 till actually 2011 beleive it or not as the production doesn't even start till nov 22. I would expect there be more details at an auto show between now and then....
http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_trucks_ford.html
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Very nicely put. I had not considered the fleet & CAFE aspects.

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Thank you.

I'm anxiously awaiting the 2011MY because I want the EB V6 in my new F150. I'm willing to take my chances on a first year production engine if it really brings diesel-like performance and fuel economy with it.
 
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