You just gotta watch because if you pull out into traffic and the TC kicks in and slows you down your gonna get get rear ended lol

 

Exactly - if you're going to ride recklessly on your motorcycle, say, you probably aren't going to do much damage when you wreck (except to yourself). Same idea with seatbelts - if you want to fly through the windshield, be my guest. Those decisions don't have a large chance of affecting anyone else. But if you're trying to drive your 2+ ton truck "on the edge" as it were, you're being irresponsible and clueless. No different than driving drunk IMO.

If you're cutting it that close, and accelerating so hard that you're going to slip the tires - maybe you should wait for another spot to get into traffic.

 

I just love the fact everyone is freaking out about turning off a nanny system on a truck that has been fine for 50+ years without it....

These nanny systems are put in place for people who can't drive. For the people who can, it's annoying.

 

It's not a "nanny system" it's a very effective and useful driver aid. These traction control and stability systems (including anti-lock brakes) are used at the highest level of motorcycle road racing by the likes of world champions Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner. In fact, MotoGP is so competitive that a rider could not win a single race without these "nanny systems" Even Valentino Rossi admits that fact and he was winning world championships before these systems were in place. I think he knows how to ride.

They can react before you can, no matter how good of a driver you are and therein lies their advantage - it helps out before you get out of shape. That helps you go faster if you know how to drive at the limits of traction. If you just want to spin your tires and showoff, they will hinder.

If yours is not working well I suggest it's because of modifications to your truck. This can change the required tuning of the traction and stability systems. Looks like your truck has been lowered. OOOps, that a performance robbing modification. Wanna race?

 

QFT

Too many people are arrogant about their perceived expertise at driving and point fingers at safety systems, claiming they're a hindrance to their l33t skills.

 

Again like real says these system react far faster than you can. If TC control come on when you pull out of a junction it's because you the driver put to much power to the wheels. It's not the trucks fault it was your fault. Because ABS cut in when you was brakeing and caused your stopping distance to increase and you hit the car in front then that is also you fault and not the trucks. You added to much brakeing power for the conditions. every car that has posted the fastest time at the nurburgring have more nannys than they have engine. the new skyline aint fast because it has a driver who thinks he's the best driver it's because it has more nannys to keep you under control and stop your ego from running you of the road. Yeah it may stop you from doing burn outs infront of your mates but it's not what the truck was designed to do. You are in a truck not a race car.

 

There are lots of difference between what race cars/bikes use and what comes out from the factory... You can not even compare the two.

 

Of course, they have somewhat different priorities. One is designed to perform best on the track, the other performs best in real on-road situations.

But if you have modified the dynamics of your truck it will likely not perform up to par anywhere. And it looks like you have lowered your truck. No wonder you are unhappy.

Wanna race?

 

It dont matter if it comes from a factory or a race track. They all function far quicker than you can. We are talking milli seconds here. Perhaps the track stuff function quicker and has more features but they are designed to do the same thing. Keep people who cant control their vehicles in some type of control. If they keep kicking in whilst your driving then you need to learn how to drive. Simple as. Again they only function when there's a loss of control. Going around a corner sideways in ice is not in control. No matter how good a driver you think you are.

 

Who said I was unhappy? My truck will do pretty much anything any other truck can do except go heavy offroad.

I bet it would blow your mind if I posted up a picture of me hauling a tractor with mud all over my truck wouldn't it? I need to see if I can get that from my buddy...

 

Once again you just don't understand the major differences between race and what comes factory.Factory setups bog the vehicle and dramatically slows it down, where as race setups are much finer tuned and do no such thing. Talk to any vette or hi performance owner that road races or auto-x and they will tell you they pull the fuses or turn off the stabilizer/traction control nannies. Not only does it make you slower, it could end up being dangerous. The same could be said in the real world where one might have to make an invasive maneuver..

The fact that you don't understand that, shows me that you sir are one of those drivers that need it. I personally would much rather rely on my feet, eyes, ears, and knowledge of driving then a dummy computer that "thinks" it knows best. To 90% of drivers on the road that think 100mph is fast, yes these nanny's are good and will probably save them from wrecks. To those people that KNOW their vehicle, and their driving skills, the nannys are just an annoyance.

ABS IMO is about the only nanny worth having now days. Even then in an off road situation it can easily be viewed as a negative nanny.

Also, the more electronic BS on vehicles, the more electronic BS to go wrong down the road..at a very high price.

 

He's not saying that they're the same exact systems - just that they have the same intent.

Theoretically if you all are such excellent drivers, the safety systems should NEVER come on, if as you say, they're only for people who "can't drive." Especially because you're on the streets, not a racetrack. Your number one priority should be safety, not seeing how long you can spin the tires or how fast you can pull out in front of someone or how fast you can go around an icy corner.

 

I honestly don't think your system is working as intended.

What I have found is that the traction control will allow you to accelerate faster than you could with it turned off. You still need to modulate the throttle skillfully because otherwise the TC will kick in too hard. But if you only have a little wheel slip the TC will be gentle and allow you to keep accelerating faster than you could with TC off.

That is how the TC works on my 2010 F-150 on ice, snow and wet clay. I have seen a report right here on F150Online from another F-150 owner who said his worked this way when he tested it on dirt.

You certainly seem to think it doesn't work that way which is why I suggest your truck or "nanny system" has been modified in some way that is making it work differently.

Or maybe you just don't know any better and think you will accelerate faster with your wheels spinning 60 mph or something. I don't know but I suggest you review the changes you made to your truck and try to determine what is causing the issue (assuming it's not your lack of driver skill/knowledge).

 

A good driver will start to feel that bit of tire slip and gently lift off the throttle and correct his steering if needed..

Every race car, even those with the nanny aids(for racing) drift a little bit and have tire spin... That's how you know where the limit is. That's the exact same way a nanny system works, except factory setups bog the vehicle way down and slow it dramatically. Where as race nanny setups, or a driver that knows throttle control, will just back off the throttle slightly to still keep the speed up, but the tire spin minimal.

 

My truck doesn't have that BS...thank god...

I have driven several vehicles with such systems and they are just pure crap. Every single one of them..

In your situation on a factory truck just using slight throttle pressure to "putt a-long" yes it will work as it's attended. You said it yourself though when you really want to get it moving it bogs you down.

If you feel safer with nanny aids fine, I'm not going to tell you to take it off because it's obvious you need them. I personally dis-like any such thing in just about every vehicle I have driven, and would want to turn it off or just completely remove if possible.